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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Nag Note for Project Status Bugzillas

I wanted to clarify, if it wasn't clear. If there's anything that's "not 
done" for a technical reason (e.g. architectural requirements, or to avoid 
performance impacts) it is ok to mark those as "fixed" and just explain 
the technical reasons in the bugzilla. 

And, yes, next year we will use another mechanism that can reflect some 
degree of compliance for many items ... well, as long as someone 
volunteers to make that web app (hint hint). 

Plus, maybe I'm the only one, but I like the idea of marking "won't fix" 
because that's an indication to me there's something interesting there to 
read ... that is, it's just a category and color, not all that negative 
(at least, not necessarily).

Oisin was right, months ago ... there's something about that red color :) 







From:
Dave Steinberg <davidms@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
05/06/2009 10:52 AM
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Nag Note for Project Status Bugzillas
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Hi David,

Okay, will do. I'm not thrilled about the fact that we'll have a bunch of 
won't fixes after so much work has been done, but such is life. By the 
same token, will we end up using "won't fix" for all the corresponding 
Galileo bugs where even a single project fails to comply? It just seems so 
negative.

Next time can we consider using some other mechanism to track these?

Thanks again,
Dave

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Dave Steinberg
Rational Software - IBM Toronto Lab
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David M Williams ---05/06/2009 10:37:32 AM---I'd suggest "won't fix" and 
then explain the detail in bug's comments.


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David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>

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Date:

05/06/2009 10:37 AM

Subject:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Nag Note for Project Status Bugzillas



I'd suggest "won't fix" and then explain the detail in bug's comments. 




From:
Dave Steinberg <davidms@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:
05/06/2009 10:20 AM
Subject:
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Nag Note for Project Status Bugzillas
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Hi David,

Apologies for being a bit behind the ball on this, but I'm taking another 
pass through EMF's Galileo bugs right now. For highly decentralized 
projects like ours, with individual components contributing directly to 
Galileo, it feels a bit like a cat herding exercise (not unlike the 
overall experience you're enjoying, no doubt).

Anyhow, my question: there are numerous cases where some components are 
meeting the requirement and other aren't. How should I resolve the bug in 
those cases: fixed or won't fix?

Cheers,
Dave

-- 
Dave Steinberg
Rational Software - IBM Toronto Lab
mailto:davidms@xxxxxxxxxx


David M Williams ---05/01/2009 10:56:33 AM---As we come up to the end of 
M7, our Galileo readiness chart, at


From:

David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>

To:

cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx

Date:

05/01/2009 10:56 AM

Subject:

[cross-project-issues-dev] Nag Note for Project Status Bugzillas



As we come up to the end of M7, our Galileo readiness chart, at 
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/galileo_status.php 
needs much attention. 

If we went on the state of the table right now to decide who was "in" 
Galileo, based on "must do" items for this point in cycle, there would 
only be 10 of the 35 projects. 

ACTF Visualization
BIRT 
Data Tools 
Equinox 
GMF 
M2T
Platform 
Subversive 
TPTP
TmL

Congratulations to them ... but even then, those 10 still need to do some 
work for "RC1" items. 

I'm fairly sure some of these just need book-keeping ... for example, 
according to the chart, CDT has not yet declared their intent to be in 
Galileo! 

For other, non-book-keeping items, if you have not done it by M7 (and it 
was due by M7) you should mark as "won't fix" and explain why. Otherwise, 
when the Planning Council is reviewing them next week, we'll have to 
assume you not only did not do the item, but you are also not 
communicating in a cross-project, good-Eclipse-citizen fashion ... which 
is of course the fundamental "must-do" requirement of our simultaneous 
release! 

Please update the bugzillas by end-of-day Tuesday, so the Planning Council 


will have accurate data to discuss when we meet on Wednesday. 

Thank you,


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