RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Java 1.5

[Ed Merks <merks@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Doug,

EMF is in a bit of an odd position in
that it provides and uses it own runtime.  So unlike the JDT, which
can target any JVM and hence can support Java 5.0 without using Java 5.0
itself, EMF must target its own runtime.   For example, org.eclipse.emf.common..util.EList
which extends java.util.List to add move methods needs to be templatized
just as is List itself and similarly the implementation class org.eclipse.emf.common.util.BasicEList
needs to be fully templatized.  As such, the org.eclipse.emf.common
plugin will depend on Java 5.0 and since all the rest of EMF depends on
this, all the rest of EMF will be bound by that decision; and of course
we'll want to regenerate the Ecore API to support Java 5.0.  So EMF
3.0 will absolutely not run on a 1.4 VM (which is why we are moving to
EMF 3.0 rather than EMF 2.3, even though we hope to provide a binary compatible
runtime capable of running 2.2-based code without recompilation).  It's
a huge undertaking for our tiny team, given that there is little experience
in this domain from which we can draw.  I'm finding that templatizing
collection APIs is shockingly complicated (even though using templatized
APIs is usually rather simple and nice).


Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>
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Thanks, Ed. I was thinking
more about the runtime for your plug-ins. Will EMF 3.0 run on a 1.4 VM?
 
Doug Schaefer
QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead
http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com

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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Java 1.5
 

Doug, 

Supporting and exploiting Java 5.0 is the main development item for EMF
3.0.   We hope to make generating the 5.0 features optional and to
ensure that generated code can compile and run against the 2.2 EMF runtime
so that folks needing support for Java 1.4 will be able to achieve that.


Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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Richard Gronback <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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10/05/2006 10:14 AM

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GMF is using 1.5 language features for this release.

- Rich


On 10/5/06 10:13 AM, "Doug Schaefer" <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hey gang, Iâm just wondering if any of the projects participating in Europa
are planning on dropping support for Java 1.4, i.e. are planning on using
Java 1.5 features.

Doug Schaefer
QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead
http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com

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