RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I second that, and Tim's response was
much politer than what I was getting ready to write. 
A Web Applications view is essential.,
How'd that drop off the radar? 



I do like the organization and content
of the "second level" pages, but that first page ... 

Starting off with "I" does
not seem to be a "conversational tone" if that's what was being
attempted. 

Isn't the key to a conversation is to
have two participants?  Two sides? 

I'd suggest something more like ....

     Are you interested
in a specific area of Callisto? 

          Yes,
I create Web Applications. 

          Yes,
I do C/C++ Development, and that's all I want to know about. 

           What's
all this I hear about Rich Client Platform (RCP) applications? I want to
make one. 

          I'm
interested only in the plan 'ol   traditional Java and Plugin Development.
What's new? 

          No,
tell me about everything that is in Callisto. 

          None
of the above. I am an adopter of Eclipse technology that builds add-on
plugins on top. What 
        should
I know about Callisto? 


Of course, no need to use those exact
words ... but, hope the convey my meaning, and a slightly different message
to users. 


Contrast with the proposed
     I build Java Applications
     I build Plugins
and RCP applications
     I build C/C++ applications
That sounds to me like we are just forcing
the user to answer some survey questions before we let the in to the real
site. 


Use, or not, as you like (as long s
"Web Apps" are added in there somewhere :) 

And, to repeat the positive, those second
level pages look great, and very helpful to end-users. 
I appreciate the work that is being
put into them. Thank you very much.

"Tim Wagner" <twagner@xxxxxxx>
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06/18/2006 02:52 PM

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Subject	RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

At the risk of sounding project centric...how about
an "I build web
applications"? That captures a larger user demographic than RCP
developers.

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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne
Beaton
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:18 AM
To: cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

Hey folks. We've been putting some thought into some "getting started"
information for the Callisto landing page. What we're thinking is that
we'll
include the three fancy graphics on this page:

http://eclipse.org/callisto/getstarted.php

Onto the landing page.

So...

I'm curious to learn how you feel about this page. Is it a good idea?
Does
it come close to providing what folks need? Do you like the format? Is
the
way it works more or less obvious?

Feedback and comments welcome.

I know that the C/C++ page doesn't exist yet. That's next (assuming
enough
of you like what's there so far).

And, I need a good concise (i.e. one sentence) description of DataTools.

Thanks,

Wayne
--
Wayne Beaton
The Eclipse Foundation
wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.eclipse.org
http://wbeaton.blogspot.com/
http://www.planeteclipse.org/planet/

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