RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page

["Wayne Beaton" <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I chose the SDK because it is the closest thing that we have to an IDE. I
went through the steps required to build a Java IDE starting from the
Platform Runtime Binaries and decided that it was too much work. I figure
that new Java developers (i.e. folks using Eclipse to build Java
applications) would be turned off it required too many steps to just build a
Java IDE. I also figured that Eclipse plug-in/RCP developers need the SDK.
Ideally, I'd like to point the user to a Java IDE (i.e. no PDE or source
code), but that's a discussion for another day. I'll likely have the C/C++
route start from the Platform Runtime Binaries.

I have planned to build an "Installing Callisto Features" screen cam. I will
also hunt down/build some decent instructions.

I'll make sure that the JVM link is corrected.

BTW: It would be really handy if there were a way to link directly to the
SDK or Platform Runtime Binaries. Even just a label on the existing sections
on the download page would work. Or have I just missed it? I'll hunt harder
and make a bug report...

Thanks,

Wayne
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The Eclipse Foundation
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Kim Moir
> Sent: June 16, 2006 4:40 PM
> To: Cross project issues
> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Getting started page
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> 
> Looks good! 
> 
> My comments: 
> With  these pages, it states to download the eclipse SDK.  On 
> the existing Callisto page 
> http://www.eclipse.org/callisto/discovery.php, it states to 
> download the platform runtime and run update against the 
> Callisto update site to get the other features. Which is 
> correct?  Also, today we are only providing runtime features 
> to the Callisto update site. 
> 
> There should be a link to the page that describes how to use 
> update manager to install the Callisto features.  This will 
> alleviate a lot of newbie questions for people new to eclipse 
> or unfamiliar with running update manager. 
> 
> The link to the JVMs page should point to the 3.2 page when 
> it is available. 
> 
> I agree with Pascal's statement regarding managing 
> expectations.  Although Callisto is targeted to vendors 
> consuming eclipse, it will appeal to the broader user 
> community.  I would expect more integration with the next 
> year's simultaneous release but we should not try to raise 
> expectations so that a regular user or journalists look to 
> Callisto to provide a integrated product and are disappointed. 
> 
> Kim 
> 
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> Hey folks. We've been putting some thought into some "getting started"
> information for the Callisto landing page. What we're 
> thinking is that we'll include the three fancy graphics on this page:
> 
> http://eclipse.org/callisto/getstarted.php
> 
> Onto the landing page.
> 
> So...
> 
> I'm curious to learn how you feel about this page. Is it a 
> good idea? Does it come close to providing what folks need? 
> Do you like the format? Is the way it works more or less obvious?
> 
> Feedback and comments welcome.
> 
> I know that the C/C++ page doesn't exist yet. That's next 
> (assuming enough of you like what's there so far).
> 
> And, I need a good concise (i.e. one sentence) description of 
> DataTools.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
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> Wayne Beaton
> The Eclipse Foundation
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