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Re: [cme-dev] Composition and Query Language


Sorry, I missed item (d), the relationship to a concern model, as well.


Peri Tarr/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
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Harold, I've had a look through this, but I'm hampered by not understanding the intended use(s) of this composition language.  It looks as though it's intended as a general-purpose, compile-time composition notation (unless I missed the provision for dynamic).  First, is this the case?  Second, is this the best approach to take (versus, for example, a set of smaller composition languages that address subsets of activities but provide higher-level constructs that are easier for people to use--a DSL-ish sort of approach--and translate down to CCC, where we have PlainWay for the lowest-level and most powerful language)?  (I'm moderately concerned about what it would take to do "hello world" here :-).)  Third, where are you assuming the developers are starting (code? design? anywhere?)?  And finally, I've missed the relationships (if any were intended) between this language and (a) the query language (except for bound variables), (b) AspectJ, and (c) the extraction language.


Take offline?  Or should I write up details?


    Peri


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Hi all,

I finally had a chance to get down some thoughts about the composition
langauge issue. They are very half-baked, and the exposition is very
hurriedly written, but I hope this is enough to spark discussion.

The examples are all from Juri and Thomas's paper (many thanks!), showing
how they would be done. As you'll see, the syntax I have used is a little
different. That's not because I think it reads better - it doesn't - but
because I was going with a very general, extensible syntax, and did it
quickly. I'd be interested in comments of all sorts, including how to
improve the suggested syntax. (I may not be able to respond for a while,
however).

Thanks, Harold

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Hi all,

at http://www.jpmdesign.de/papers/CME_Query_and_Composition_Language.pdf
you can find a paper a colleague of mine an I wrote on the current query
language and the to-be-developed composition language for the CME.
We'd be very happy to discuss this if we came up with something you like
(or abhor).


Juri

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