[cdt-dev] CDT conference call minutes

[Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

here are the minutes of yesterday's CDT call (link and copy/paste below).  
Please correct any discrepancies you notice:
https://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/calls/Feb2017

Thanks to all the attendees

Of note:
* LLVM project is working on ClangD to support Language Server Protocol for C/C++.  
  CDT committers will try to get involved.  LLVM conference March 27-28
* Topics proposed for CDT Newsletter
* Trace Compass webinar will be held on Feb 22nd, 2017
     
 BR,
 Marc

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Full Minutes:
* CDT 9.2.1 one month away.  RC1 on Feb 13th 2017
* Language Server Protocol
** Decoupling of language features from IDE
** Work had started building a prototype server using libClang but will be refocused on ClangD
** LLVM community has very recently announced their plan of doing exactly that through the new ClangD project
** LLVM conference in Germany on March 27-28.  Marc-Andre will attend and is trying to organise a BOF on ClangD
* No more source features
** All source code automatically included in all builds.
** If a new feature is created, it will automatically have its source included
* CDT Newsletter due April 6th
** Previous CDT one: https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2013/october/
** Topics
*** Tracy: Maybe Linker Editor
*** Trace Compass: Tracy will touch base with them
*** Marc-Andre: LSP using ClangD 
*** Jeff: Docker support
*** William: To be confirmed
*** C++ language support: Tracy to contact Nathan
* Trace Compass webinar will be held on Feb 22nd, 2017
* Breakpoints improvements
** Breakpoints are still quite limiting, especially for multi-core
** When GDB fails to install a breakpoint during launch, the whole launch failed miserably.  Mikhail has a patch that at least informs the user of the problem; however gdb 7.11 does not behave well in this case; 7.12 is better but the error message is not descriptive enough.
** Mikhail to open GDB bugs about it
** Let's move forward with Mikhail's patch to at least improve things.  Mikhail to add Jonah as reviewer to get input.
** Other improvements need to be expressed to know what work can be done.
*** "Show details" is something we could do if we reach a consensus.
** We will keep track of the situation and progress in the monthly call
* Eclipse 4.7 needs a more modern glibc than what RHEL 6 supports.  Is this a problem to others?  Is there a workaround?
** There are plans to define a "software collection" for RHEL 6 to support Eclipse Oxygen
** "Software collections" allow to install a group of packages that are needed to run specific newer tools in a contained environment
** The "software collection" for Oxygen will only be done _after_ Oxygen is released, because it contains Eclipse Oxygen itself
* Builds timing out
** Timeout set to 2h30 but still too slow
** It seems it is related to too many builds on the same HIPP
** Some core tests hang forever.  Apparently there is a deadlock in the indexer triggered by the tests.
*** First step would be to try to fix the deadlock
*** If we can't, we could attempt to timeout the tests and abort the build when we "detect" the deadlock.
** We should also work with the web masters to improve the performance
* New build, CMake, UI
** Doug was ill and couldn't join.  We'll keep this on the agenda for next month.