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Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I wasn't aware you could use the classic theme.
> I set it now, and it looks real nice. Thanks!
>
> My gripe is with moving things around in the perspective.
> I don't find it is as responsive and fluid as how it used to be.

Hmm, maybe that's a Linux problem. Seems fine to me on Windows.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:39 PM
>> To: CDT General developers list.
>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>>
>> No, but that comes down to UI design which is all personal taste. I
>> actually like the Classic theme and will probably stick with that.
>>
>> Now the bugs, that's another matter...
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Fedja Jeleskovic
>> <mrawd2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Doug,
>> >
>> > Did you by any chance open a bug against the extra white
>> spaces between the
>> > inner windows? This is also a big show stopper for me as
>> well and I hope
>> > there is a solution of it!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Fedja
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Doug Schaefer
>> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I really hate all the extra white space between the view areas,
>> >> especially when working on my smallish 720p home laptop
>> screen. And I
>> >> hate that the tabs between the inactive views don't have
>> lines between
>> >> them. Not sure exactly where to click to make them active.
>> >>
>> >> That and emacs keybindings are broken (I did raise a bug on that).
>> >> That's a big show stopper for me and forced me to 3.8 as well. I
>> >> tested M5 using 4.2, but I'm not sure if I can stay on it as I get
>> >> back into the new project wizard work.
>> >>
>> >> At any rate, the platform team would appreciate bugs raised for the
>> >> things that bug you.
>> >>
>> >> Doug.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>> >> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Doug Schaefer
>> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I guess the question we should ask, is 4.2 uglier than
>> 3.x? Is it a
>> >> >> downgrade or just didn't meet expectations?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Much uglier (several other people I know share my
>> opinion). I couldn't
>> >> > stand
>> >> > it and went back to 3.8.
>> >> >
>> >> > -sergey
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > That is the reason, why I asked about the 3.8 release :)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 4.2 is not only buggy, but the UI looks ugly. Do you
>> know if any UI
>> >> >> > designer
>> >> >> > work is planned for 4.2?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -sergey
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Doug Schaefer
>> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The plan has always to ship the Eclipse C/C++ IDE in
>> Juno with the
>> >> >> >> 4.2
>> >> >> >> platform. In theory CDT could be used with both 3.8
>> and 4.2, but the
>> >> >> >> package at eclipse.org will be 4.2.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now, there is a subplot to this all. As McQ
>> announced recently, the
>> >> >> >> platform UI team is low on staff and this plan is in
>> jeopardy.
>> >> >> >> That's
>> >> >> >> why finding these bugs is so important right now, so
>> we can assess
>> >> >> >> how
>> >> >> >> good 4.2 is going to be and to see if these issues
>> get addressed
>> >> >> >> (and
>> >> >> >> help get them addressed if you have the
>> time/expertise to help).
>> >> >> >> They
>> >> >> >> are still committed to 4.2, but I am worried about it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> But, yes, as I stated a few weeks ago here, please
>> use 4.2 as your
>> >> >> >> dev
>> >> >> >> environment for CDT master (which will likely be CDT
>> 9 - should make
>> >> >> >> that call too I suppose).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Doug.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I cannot find the actual information, will Eclipse
>> 3.8 (with CDT)
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > released? Or just 4.2?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> > Anton
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Marc-Andre is right.  E4 currently has some limitations
>> >> >> >> >> that affect the CDT quite much.  The E4 team is
>> pretty responsive
>> >> >> >> >> when we let them know of the issues, so it will
>> be important
>> >> >> >> >> to report our issues.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> For example, cutomizing perspectives is not
>> supported right now,
>> >> >> >> >> which prevents some features of CDT from being accessed
>> >> >> >> >> altogether:
>> >> >> >> >>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320478
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> >>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Marc-Andre
>> >> >> >> >>> Laperle
>> >> >> >> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:06 AM
>> >> >> >> >>> To: CDT General developers list.
>> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I highly recommend that people test it. I only
>> tested it for a
>> >> >> >> >>> very
>> >> >> >> >>> short time and already found 3 issues.
>> >> >> >> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331444
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Marc-Andre
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> On 02/02/2012 1:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> And here is the link for the Juno M5 C/C++ IDE
>> candidate.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Let me know
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> if you find any serious problems.
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Doug.
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >> >>>> From: Markus Knauer<mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
>> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>> >> >> >> >>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List<epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> here is the second release to be tested, this
>> time it's the
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> EPP build
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> for Juno M5:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/downloa
>> >> >> >> >>> d/20120202-1517/
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Please test and vote... :)
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >>>> Markus
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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