Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages

[Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wasn't aware you could use the classic theme.
I set it now, and it looks real nice. Thanks!

My gripe is with moving things around in the perspective.
I don't find it is as responsive and fluid as how it used to be.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:39 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
> 
> No, but that comes down to UI design which is all personal taste. I
> actually like the Classic theme and will probably stick with that.
> 
> Now the bugs, that's another matter...
> 
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Fedja Jeleskovic 
> <mrawd2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Doug,
> >
> > Did you by any chance open a bug against the extra white 
> spaces between the
> > inner windows? This is also a big show stopper for me as 
> well and I hope
> > there is a solution of it!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Fedja
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Doug Schaefer 
> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> I really hate all the extra white space between the view areas,
> >> especially when working on my smallish 720p home laptop 
> screen. And I
> >> hate that the tabs between the inactive views don't have 
> lines between
> >> them. Not sure exactly where to click to make them active.
> >>
> >> That and emacs keybindings are broken (I did raise a bug on that).
> >> That's a big show stopper for me and forced me to 3.8 as well. I
> >> tested M5 using 4.2, but I'm not sure if I can stay on it as I get
> >> back into the new project wizard work.
> >>
> >> At any rate, the platform team would appreciate bugs raised for the
> >> things that bug you.
> >>
> >> Doug.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sergey Prigogin
> >> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Doug Schaefer 
> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess the question we should ask, is 4.2 uglier than 
> 3.x? Is it a
> >> >> downgrade or just didn't meet expectations?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Much uglier (several other people I know share my 
> opinion). I couldn't
> >> > stand
> >> > it and went back to 3.8.
> >> >
> >> > -sergey
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> > That is the reason, why I asked about the 3.8 release :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 4.2 is not only buggy, but the UI looks ugly. Do you 
> know if any UI
> >> >> > designer
> >> >> > work is planned for 4.2?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -sergey
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Doug Schaefer 
> <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The plan has always to ship the Eclipse C/C++ IDE in 
> Juno with the
> >> >> >> 4.2
> >> >> >> platform. In theory CDT could be used with both 3.8 
> and 4.2, but the
> >> >> >> package at eclipse.org will be 4.2.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Now, there is a subplot to this all. As McQ 
> announced recently, the
> >> >> >> platform UI team is low on staff and this plan is in 
> jeopardy.
> >> >> >> That's
> >> >> >> why finding these bugs is so important right now, so 
> we can assess
> >> >> >> how
> >> >> >> good 4.2 is going to be and to see if these issues 
> get addressed
> >> >> >> (and
> >> >> >> help get them addressed if you have the 
> time/expertise to help).
> >> >> >> They
> >> >> >> are still committed to 4.2, but I am worried about it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But, yes, as I stated a few weeks ago here, please 
> use 4.2 as your
> >> >> >> dev
> >> >> >> environment for CDT master (which will likely be CDT 
> 9 - should make
> >> >> >> that call too I suppose).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Doug.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >> > I cannot find the actual information, will Eclipse 
> 3.8 (with CDT)
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > released? Or just 4.2?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > Anton
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Marc-Andre is right.  E4 currently has some limitations
> >> >> >> >> that affect the CDT quite much.  The E4 team is 
> pretty responsive
> >> >> >> >> when we let them know of the issues, so it will 
> be important
> >> >> >> >> to report our issues.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> For example, cutomizing perspectives is not 
> supported right now,
> >> >> >> >> which prevents some features of CDT from being accessed
> >> >> >> >> altogether:
> >> >> >> >>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320478
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Marc-Andre
> >> >> >> >>> Laperle
> >> >> >> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:06 AM
> >> >> >> >>> To: CDT General developers list.
> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I highly recommend that people test it. I only 
> tested it for a
> >> >> >> >>> very
> >> >> >> >>> short time and already found 3 issues.
> >> >> >> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331444
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Marc-Andre
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On 02/02/2012 1:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> And here is the link for the Juno M5 C/C++ IDE 
> candidate.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Let me know
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> if you find any serious problems.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Doug.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> >> >>>> From: Markus Knauer<mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
> >> >> >> >>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List<epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> here is the second release to be tested, this 
> time it's the
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> EPP build
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> for Juno M5:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>> 
> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/downloa
> >> >> >> >>> d/20120202-1517/
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Please test and vote... :)
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >> >> >>>> Markus
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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