Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages

[Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>]

No, but that comes down to UI design which is all personal taste. I
actually like the Classic theme and will probably stick with that.

Now the bugs, that's another matter...

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Fedja Jeleskovic <mrawd2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Did you by any chance open a bug against the extra white spaces between the
> inner windows? This is also a big show stopper for me as well and I hope
> there is a solution of it!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Fedja
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I really hate all the extra white space between the view areas,
>> especially when working on my smallish 720p home laptop screen. And I
>> hate that the tabs between the inactive views don't have lines between
>> them. Not sure exactly where to click to make them active.
>>
>> That and emacs keybindings are broken (I did raise a bug on that).
>> That's a big show stopper for me and forced me to 3.8 as well. I
>> tested M5 using 4.2, but I'm not sure if I can stay on it as I get
>> back into the new project wizard work.
>>
>> At any rate, the platform team would appreciate bugs raised for the
>> things that bug you.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I guess the question we should ask, is 4.2 uglier than 3.x? Is it a
>> >> downgrade or just didn't meet expectations?
>> >
>> >
>> > Much uglier (several other people I know share my opinion). I couldn't
>> > stand
>> > it and went back to 3.8.
>> >
>> > -sergey
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > That is the reason, why I asked about the 3.8 release :)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -------- Original message --------
>> >> >
>> >> > 4.2 is not only buggy, but the UI looks ugly. Do you know if any UI
>> >> > designer
>> >> > work is planned for 4.2?
>> >> >
>> >> > -sergey
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The plan has always to ship the Eclipse C/C++ IDE in Juno with the
>> >> >> 4.2
>> >> >> platform. In theory CDT could be used with both 3.8 and 4.2, but the
>> >> >> package at eclipse.org will be 4.2.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now, there is a subplot to this all. As McQ announced recently, the
>> >> >> platform UI team is low on staff and this plan is in jeopardy.
>> >> >> That's
>> >> >> why finding these bugs is so important right now, so we can assess
>> >> >> how
>> >> >> good 4.2 is going to be and to see if these issues get addressed
>> >> >> (and
>> >> >> help get them addressed if you have the time/expertise to help).
>> >> >> They
>> >> >> are still committed to 4.2, but I am worried about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But, yes, as I stated a few weeks ago here, please use 4.2 as your
>> >> >> dev
>> >> >> environment for CDT master (which will likely be CDT 9 - should make
>> >> >> that call too I suppose).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Doug.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > I cannot find the actual information, will Eclipse 3.8 (with CDT)
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > released? Or just 4.2?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > Anton
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Marc-Andre is right.  E4 currently has some limitations
>> >> >> >> that affect the CDT quite much.  The E4 team is pretty responsive
>> >> >> >> when we let them know of the issues, so it will be important
>> >> >> >> to report our issues.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> For example, cutomizing perspectives is not supported right now,
>> >> >> >> which prevents some features of CDT from being accessed
>> >> >> >> altogether:
>> >> >> >>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320478
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc-Andre
>> >> >> >>> Laperle
>> >> >> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:06 AM
>> >> >> >>> To: CDT General developers list.
>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I highly recommend that people test it. I only tested it for a
>> >> >> >>> very
>> >> >> >>> short time and already found 3 issues.
>> >> >> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331444
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Marc-Andre
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 02/02/2012 1:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> And here is the link for the Juno M5 C/C++ IDE candidate.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Let me know
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> if you find any serious problems.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Doug.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >>>> From: Markus Knauer<mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
>> >> >> >>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>> >> >> >>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List<epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> here is the second release to be tested, this time it's the
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> EPP build
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> for Juno M5:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/downloa
>> >> >> >>> d/20120202-1517/
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Please test and vote... :)
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>>> Markus
>> >> >> >>>>
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