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Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages

BTW, just tried the Classic theme and it's not so bad. Note that when
you do switch themes, you need to do an eclipse restart to see it's
full affects.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I can't really argue with that. I never recommend vendors adopt the
> June release. Maybe 4.2.1 will be better so I'm reserving judgement.
>
> In the meantime 4.2.0 needs to be a success with the community for 4.x
> to gain any momentum, so I still encourage you all to test with it, at
> least for the C/C++ IDE package.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Sergey Prigogin
> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Google is not going to jump on 4.x at least until 4.3.
>>
>> -sergey
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I really hate all the extra white space between the view areas,
>>> especially when working on my smallish 720p home laptop screen. And I
>>> hate that the tabs between the inactive views don't have lines between
>>> them. Not sure exactly where to click to make them active.
>>>
>>> That and emacs keybindings are broken (I did raise a bug on that).
>>> That's a big show stopper for me and forced me to 3.8 as well. I
>>> tested M5 using 4.2, but I'm not sure if I can stay on it as I get
>>> back into the new project wizard work.
>>>
>>> At any rate, the platform team would appreciate bugs raised for the
>>> things that bug you.
>>>
>>> Doug.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess the question we should ask, is 4.2 uglier than 3.x? Is it a
>>> >> downgrade or just didn't meet expectations?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Much uglier (several other people I know share my opinion). I couldn't
>>> > stand
>>> > it and went back to 3.8.
>>> >
>>> > -sergey
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> > That is the reason, why I asked about the 3.8 release :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -------- Original message --------
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 4.2 is not only buggy, but the UI looks ugly. Do you know if any UI
>>> >> > designer
>>> >> > work is planned for 4.2?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -sergey
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The plan has always to ship the Eclipse C/C++ IDE in Juno with the
>>> >> >> 4.2
>>> >> >> platform. In theory CDT could be used with both 3.8 and 4.2, but the
>>> >> >> package at eclipse.org will be 4.2.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Now, there is a subplot to this all. As McQ announced recently, the
>>> >> >> platform UI team is low on staff and this plan is in jeopardy.
>>> >> >> That's
>>> >> >> why finding these bugs is so important right now, so we can assess
>>> >> >> how
>>> >> >> good 4.2 is going to be and to see if these issues get addressed
>>> >> >> (and
>>> >> >> help get them addressed if you have the time/expertise to help).
>>> >> >> They
>>> >> >> are still committed to 4.2, but I am worried about it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But, yes, as I stated a few weeks ago here, please use 4.2 as your
>>> >> >> dev
>>> >> >> environment for CDT master (which will likely be CDT 9 - should make
>>> >> >> that call too I suppose).
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Doug.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> >> > I cannot find the actual information, will Eclipse 3.8 (with CDT)
>>> >> >> > be
>>> >> >> > released? Or just 4.2?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> > Anton
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Marc-Andre is right.  E4 currently has some limitations
>>> >> >> >> that affect the CDT quite much.  The E4 team is pretty responsive
>>> >> >> >> when we let them know of the issues, so it will be important
>>> >> >> >> to report our issues.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> For example, cutomizing perspectives is not supported right now,
>>> >> >> >> which prevents some features of CDT from being accessed
>>> >> >> >> altogether:
>>> >> >> >>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320478
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc-Andre
>>> >> >> >>> Laperle
>>> >> >> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:06 AM
>>> >> >> >>> To: CDT General developers list.
>>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> I highly recommend that people test it. I only tested it for a
>>> >> >> >>> very
>>> >> >> >>> short time and already found 3 issues.
>>> >> >> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331444
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Marc-Andre
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> On 02/02/2012 1:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> And here is the link for the Juno M5 C/C++ IDE candidate.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Let me know
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> if you find any serious problems.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Doug.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> >> >>>> From: Markus Knauer<mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
>>> >> >> >>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>>> >> >> >>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List<epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> here is the second release to be tested, this time it's the
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> EPP build
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> for Juno M5:
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/downloa
>>> >> >> >>> d/20120202-1517/
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Please test and vote... :)
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >> >> >>>> Markus
>>> >> >> >>>>
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