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Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011

I was not planning to go to EclipseCon because I find it pretty
useless these days.
As for cdt summit - the only thing we really need is a room, as for
meals I am sure we can just go out
and each person expense that on their own. Btw we should have $1000
from eclipse for google of summer mentoring, where is the money go?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Schaefer, Doug
<Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sure, we can offer up the options.
>
>
>
> I plan on being very busy at EclipseCon, though, and will not attend full
> day sessions for CDT. But you don’t need me there for the whole thing.
> Everything I need to participate in will happen in September.
>
>
>
> Doug.
>
>
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:32 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
>
>
>
>
> I agree that we might be tired on Friday, however people might prefer to do
> that instead of having a second trip.
>
> We can also investigate other options like Sun-Mon (like the IBM Rational
> conf :-).
>
>
>
> Maybe we can put the different options (Thu-Fri, Sun-Mon, Sun and Thu) on
> the wiki and see what the developers prefer.
>
> The last summit was 3 days and we had to close the registration because too
> many people wanted to come, we will have plenty of things to discuss for at
> least 2 days.
>
> Having just a few hours doesn't seem to be enough.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
> Sent: 18-Jul-11 15:56
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
> I dunno, I still have the mental scars from our last attempt at a EcilpseCon
> Friday meeting (way burned out by then).
>
>
>
> But I will have a pretty big room if tradition holds and will throw a CDT
> party some time during the week J.
>
>
>
> Doug.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Marc Khouzam
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:30 PM
> To: 'CDT General developers list.'
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
>
>
> The idea of an eSummit in September is probably the easiest way to get the
> plan done for Juno and get things started.
>
> I like that.  But I also agree that the face-to-face part is very valuable.
> So, the idea of having the same type of
>
> meeting as last year, but co-located with EclipseCon, sounds great to me.
>
>
>
> From what we saw in previous years, we need enough time to discuss the many
> different topics, and to allow
>
> people to find their common interests and see how they can collaborate
> together.  And we also need
>
> time for deep dives such as multi-core, build, codan, etc.
>
>
>
> Co-locating a full CDT Summit with EclipseCon (Thursday/Friday) only extends
> the trip by one day, and we get the full
>
> benefit of a face-face event.  And organization will be much easier :-)  It
> may also help some people justify going to
>
> EclipseCon as a two-in-one trip.
>
>
>
> So, couldn't we plan a two-day face-to-face CDT Summit on the Thursday and
> Friday of EclipseCon?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
> Yes, I wasn’t talking about replacing the face to face, just having that
> component at EclipseCon. I tend to meet more new community members at
> EclipseCon than the CDT Summit anyway.
>
>
>
> We do need to have a plan in place by the end of September (and the Eclipse
> board would actually prefer we have it earlier, but we get some leeway
> there), and should have interactive meetings on the issues we need to
> address and new features that feed into that plan. And it’s pretty much a
> given now that not every committer is able to make a summit anyway, I think
> an eSummit would fill our needs. And next year, if someone wants to hold it
> and organize early, we can try again at a full summit.
>
>
>
> :D
>
>
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Marc-Andre Laperle
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:45 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
>
>
> March 26-29 is really late in the development cycle. To me, the summit
> should be about planning Juno, discussing architecture, potential solutions
> to hard problems we want fixed in Juno.
>
> On 11-07-18 2:22 PM, Dominique Toupin wrote:
>
> Replacing a 3 days face to face summit by an online meeting will not benefit
> the community, I think its very good if we can keep the face to face event.
>
> Many people dial-in but they typically work on something else, we do not
> have the evening/lunch event when people can discuss further, etc.
>
>
>
> Looking at other open source projects/foundations they do a lot of
> co-located events (e.g LinuxCon and Tracing Summit), I had a quick chat with
> Ian from the Eclipse Foundation, he thinks it's a good idea to co-locate the
> summit with EclipseCon, possibly Thursday/Friday as long as we plan ahead to
> ensure we have a conf room available at http://reston.hyatt.com (as program
> chair, I am sure you can make it happen).
>
> Co-locating with EclipseCon has a few benefits:
>
>  - Less travel (EclipseCon + Summit same place/date)
>
>  - No sponsors/funding to find
>
>  - No local logistics (room, special events, lunch, dinner, etc.)
>
>  - more developers are likely to come
>
>  - Reston is 8.5 hours drive from Toronto
>
>  - etc.
>
> The only down side I see is it's not a good timing to plan for the next
> release so we could do as you suggested i.e. an online meeting in September
> but hopefully a short one maybe half a day to start and then we can see if
> we need extra ones for specific topics e.g. multi-core debug.
>
>
>
> Co-locating with EclipseCon seems quite future proof to me, what do you
> think?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
> Sent: 18-Jul-11 11:24
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
> I agree. The time is pretty short to organize a full blown summit in
> September. But, we still need to have planning meetings to set the agenda
> for CDT in Juno.
>
>
>
> What I’d like to propose is an eSummit instead using a conference bridge and
> Webex. I was thinking of a block of four hours running noon-3 Ottawa time
> (give or take), which allows for evening in Europe and morning in
> California. We could start with two days like that and expand if needed.
>
>
>
> I would then propose that we have a CDT get-together at EclipseCon next
> March. We had a really nice multi-core meeting last year and could do that
> for CDT in general. We could do it for a couple of hours and be separate
> from the BOF which is a more open meeting.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> Doug.
>
>
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:06 AM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
>
>
> It's not easy to plan/organize the CDT summit in the middle of summer for a
> date in Sept/Oct:
>
>  - many people are on vacation, it's hard to get developers to register;
>
>  - organizing the logistic in the middle of summer was not easy for us last
> year again because of many people on vacations and it was hard to get big
> conf room for Sept;
>
>  - in July many people are already booked for business trips in the
> fall e.g. myself, Elena, Marc, etc. if know more in advanced it will be
> easier to plan around the summit date;
>
>  - fall is a busy time of the year for many people, May/June is the Eclipse
> release crunch and March is EclipseCon...;
>
>
>
> To get more developers to join the summit we could either:
>
>  - do the plan/organization after the Eclipse release and held the summit in
> Dec/Jan
>
>  - do the plan/org in May and held the summit in Sept/Oct
>
>  - looking back at last March EclipseCon we could investigate if we can do
> it Thursday and Friday
> (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2011/program/?programdate=2011-03-24)
>
>  - we could even investigate if we can do it together with the GCC summit
> (http://www.gccsummit.org)
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Dominique
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
> Sent: 8-Jul-11 14:20
> To: cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
>
> Hey gang,
>
>
>
> Just a reminder to sign up for CDT Summit 2011 at
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/summitfall2011. Notice a few signed up already.
> The more that show interest, the more we’ll realize we really need to have
> one again J.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doug.
>
>
>
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