Re: [cdt-dev] CDT and RAP

[Mike Wrighton <mike.wrighton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Doug. RAP is a great project but for simple applications.
We tried to build a C-based web IDE using RAP and found the
limitations were huge. We couldn't port any of the CDT code because of
too many dependancies on widgets which weren't implemented in RAP, so
we had to write everything from scratch. Basically the capabilties of
native applications are way ahead of anything you can achieve with
JavaScript so single sourcing complex apps is always going to be
difficult.

If you're interested to see our efforts you can go to
https://www.xmos.com/designing/web-tools (sign up required I'm
afraid).

Mike

2009/4/6 Doug Schaefer <doug.schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> I have my personal opinions on Web IDEs. I think there is a future
> there, but for it's going to be a lot of work to get such IDEs usable.
> And I seriously question whether SWT or RAP is the write architecture
> for Web UIs. I think a better approach would be to create a more natural
> UI in JavaScript from scratch that interacts with a server-side Eclipse.
>
> Doug.
>
> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 15:47 -0700, paulb777 wrote:
>> Since this thread is more than a year old, I wanted to check if anyone has
>> thought further about running CDT on RAP (or GDK or anything else to make it
>> a Web application)
>>
>> Leveraging the Web for C/C++ development has the potential to unchain
>> developers from a specific piece of desktop hardware, simplify
>> configuration, and improve the developer collaboration of code and
>> environments.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Hi *,
>>
>> well, I am not in the RAP team, but personally I wouldn't want to run JDT,
>> CDT, or similar complex IDEs as a RAP application.
>>
>> At the moment. ;-)
>>
>> But ten years ago I didn't think that I would ever run a complete IDE in a
>> JRE...
>>
>> On the other hand there might be some interesting usecases for CDT and RAP
>> in
>> the future, usecases that will be possible with such a solution. But
>> currently it is not possible to port such applications because of the
>> missing
>> StyledText in RAP.
>>
>> At EclipseCon there is a tutorial on single sourcing RCP and RAP:
>>
>>   http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/index.php?page=sub/&id=233
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> On Friday 07 March 2008, Mike Wrighton wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know much about the RAP (Rich Ajax Platform) and more
>> > specifically whether it would be at all feasible to port some or all of
>> > the
>> > CDT to use it, instead of RCP? From what I understand, it replaces some of
>> > the graphical parts of the Eclipse platform (SWT, JFace, the workbench)
>> > with cut-down implementations that generate Ajax code so that you can
>> > effectively run Eclipse inside a browser. I suspect this would be a huge
>> > project but I haven't found much documentation yet on porting existing
>> > plug-ins.
>> >
>> > Mike
>>
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