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RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon

Ooops.  Sorry about that.  My mistake!

-----Original Message-----
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:04 PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon

Actually I'm good friends with Ken (we used to work in the same group at
TI) and I know for a fact that AMI is not currently using CDT.  They
wrote a debugger that directly implements the Eclipse debug APIs.

They do keep an eye on CDT from time to time though.  Hopefully we can
corrupt, er, convert them into the fold some day :-)

___________________________________________
 
Chris Recoskie
Software Designer
Texas Instruments, Toronto
http://eclipse.org/cdt
 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:48 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Well, I understand your frustrations.  I agree you almost need a
> separate conference for CDT.  I think that's actually true for quite a
> few of the projects.  The mini-conference idea on Monday is a good
one,
> although I don't know if there are any empty rooms available from
> Eclipse.  I'll ask at the next Program Committee meeting.  I imagine
it
> wouldn't be too hard to rent a conference room for the day if you
wanted
> to go that route.  Also, someone from the project (Doug S perhaps) can
> create a "recommended track" that will show up on the EclipseCon
> website.  Bjorn sent instructions for doing this to
> eclipse.org-technology-leads.  This will highlight all talks that you
> think would be interesting to CDT developers and users.
> 
> Tutorials:  these slots were even more coveted than the long talks, if
> you can image that.
> 
> Ken Dyck talk:  my impression was that AMI actually built a commercial
> product on top of CDT, so this would therefore be a perfect talk for
> ISV's doing the same thing.  Perhaps I'm wrong about the details of
what
> they've done, though.
> 
> BOF's:  these are scheduled ad-hoc at the conference.
> 
> Anyway, I still hope you are all coming to Eclipse, and I look forward
> to seeing you there.
> 
> Doug G
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:51 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> 
> Actually, I'm just happy we got one long talk. It was looking like
> nothing
> there for a while.
> 
> I guess the ideal situation would have been a tutorial for ISV's.
> Something
> that can be more interactive than a long talk could provide. Actually,
> for
> the next summit, I'd like to see us more in the code than we were at
the
> last one and maybe take a more ISV-centric approach.
> 
> I also think we need to go beyond the one shot conference to share all
> information. We have the wiki set up and the ISV docs as a way a way
to
> educate vendors. Our website definitely needs improvement so that ISVs
> know
> where to find information and help build excitement around the CDT. It
> would
> be a more lasting solution.
> 
> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:30 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> >
> > And Jeff's is a tutorial, not a long talk.
> >
> > So that leaves Doug and Greg, although Greg's is more of a PTP talk
as
> > opposed to a CDT one (not that CDT isn't involved in there
somewhere).
> > So basically there is one long talk that's directly CDT related, and
> > it's on the user track.
> >
> > I think part of the complaint from the community is that there
aren't
> > really any developer track items relating to what the various bits
of
> > CDT do and how they work.  If you're an ISV and your primary goal is
> to
> > find out how to create a product based on CDT, you're not going to
> find
> > a lot on the program that meets that goal.  Granted, there were not
> too
> > many submissions in this vein either though.
> >
> > Anyway, just an explanation on my part.  In no way would I want to
> give
> > the perception that any of the talks/tutorials you mention don't
> deserve
> > to be there.  I'm looking forward to them all the same.
> > ___________________________________________
> >
> > Chris Recoskie
> > Software Designer
> > Texas Instruments, Toronto
> > http://eclipse.org/cdt
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants
> > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:42 PM
> > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > >
> > > Doug,
> > >
> > > Calling the Ken Dyck's presentation CDT-related is a little
> > exageration :)
> > >
> > > Mikhail
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "CDT General developers list." <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:00 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > I have to speak up, since I am on the Program Committee for
> > EclipseCon
> > > > 2006, and this complaint has been voiced by several talk
> submitters
> > > > already.
> > > >
> > > > There were over 170 submissions for Long Talks, and only 48
> > > > developer/user track slots available!  It was difficult to get
> even
> > 1
> > > > talk for each project, let alone several.  Here are the
> CDT-related
> > > > talks that I can see:
> > > >
> > > > Using the CDT on Large Legacy Projects - Doug Schaefer -
> > > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76
> > > >
> > > > Parallel Application Development With Eclipse - Greg Watson -
> > > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=265
> > > >
> > > > 10 Tough Decisions You Must Make When Developing An
Eclipse-based
> > IDE -
> > > > Ken Dyck -
> > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=279
> > > >
> > > > Adding a New Language to the CDT - Jeff Overbey -
> > > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=163
> > > >
> > > > I think this representation is pretty good.  It's a diverse
group
> of
> > > > topics around CDT, and it reflects the Program Committee's
desire
> to
> > > > have above-average representation of the CDT project.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding short talks, perhaps you should put together your
> > preferred
> > > > list of CDT short talks.  I'd be happy to bring that list to the
> > > > committee.  We are meeting on Friday to make short talk
> selections.
> > > >
> > > > Doug G
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:32 PM
> > > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > > >
> > > > Usually we have some very good (and very long!) Birds of a
Feather
> > > > sessions at EclipseCon where we do a lot of discussion and
> planning.
> > > > Unfortunately most (but not all) of the CDT related long talks
> were
> > > > rejected.  We still might have some short talks.  There is also
> the
> > > > opportunity to waylay us over lunch or over beers so that you
can
> > pick
> > > > our brains about things that are on your mind.
> > > >
> > > > If you are looking for an opportunity to network with the CDT
> > committers
> > > > and contributors, and an opportunity participate in our
> discussions,
> > > > then the trip would likely be worth it for you IMHO.  Obviously
> > that's a
> > > > decision that ultimately you have to make for yourself though.
> > > > ___________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Chris Recoskie
> > > > Software Designer
> > > > Texas Instruments, Toronto
> > > > http://eclipse.org/cdt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On
> > > >> Behalf Of dmsubs
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:20 PM
> > > >> To: 'CDT General developers list.'
> > > >> Subject: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there going to be much CDT activity at Eclipsecon? I've had
a
> > look
> > > > at
> > > >> the
> > >
> > > >> schedule and there doesn't seem to be much happening around
CDT.
> > I'm
> > > >> wondering whether it will be worth going (I'll have to pay for
> > myself,
> > > >> flights from UK included!).
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> Derek
> > > >>
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