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RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring

Along those lines, there is really cool tool called Fisheye
that we use:

http://www.cenqua.com/fisheye

that will generated RSS feeds of CVS changesets. I've
found them invaluable in keeping up to date with source
code churn. 

Todd 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Balasubramaniyan K
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:55 PM
> To: 'CDT General developers list.'
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> 
> I am not sure if this is going to help. But my 2 cents.
> 
> My friend found a tool called CVS SPAM (:-) ) . This tool 
> actually makes a diff between the existing version & the 
> current changed version & sends out an email with the diff in 
> a nice format. 
> By this, we can atleast know what kind of check-in are 
> happening / changes.
> 
> We could add this to the existing CVS. My friend took about 
> 15-20 minutes to do the set up. 
> 
> For further details , please refer to 
> http://www.badgers-in-foil.co.uk/projects/cvsspam/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Bala  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:52 AM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> 
> I agree with Leo (I assumed that this was what he meant to 
> begin with).
> I don't think it's a problem as I assume that whether it was 
> official policy or not that everyone was going to behave 
> courteously regardless
> :-)
> 
> The thing also to remember is that every committer has a 
> "veto" of sorts.  Sure, you can go ahead and change all the 
> code in some way contrary to everyone else's opinion, but any 
> other committer can just change it back on you.  You're 
> better off reaching a consensus rather than engaging in 
> "patch wars" and seeing which of you gets tired of changing 
> the code first :-P
> 
> ___________________________________________
>  
> Chris Recoskie
> Software Designer
> Texas Instruments, Toronto
> http://eclipse.org/cdt
>  
>  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Treggiari, Leo
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:17 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > 
> > > though it is almost the same as submitting a patch.
> > 
> > I'm not suggesting things be similar to patches.  I think the 
> > interaction needs to be more at the "design" stage and not so much
> with
> > the implementation, unless the implementer has questions about the 
> > existing code/architecture.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Leo
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:01 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > 
> > Sounds good to me, though it is almost the same as 
> submitting a patch.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Treggiari, Leo" <leo.treggiari@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "CDT General developers list." <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > 
> > 
> > >I don't have any suggestions for collaboration tooling, 
> but I have a 
> > >possible suggestion on process.  I agree with giving committers
> access
> > > to all parts of CDT, but do have some concern regarding 
> maintaining 
> > > "architectural integrity" of the various sub-areas of 
> CDT.  Could we 
> > > define the role of "sub-area 
> lead(s)/architect(s)/whatever we might
> > want
> > > to call them".  The idea would be to have one or more committer in
> > each
> > > sub-area who should be consulted by other committers when 
> they want
> to
> > > make significant changes in a sub-area, or want to make a fix and
> just
> > > want to make sure they are doing the right thing.
> > >
> > > What do others think?
> > >
> > > Leo
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:54 AM
> > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > >
> > > Mikhail K brought up a great point with me in the hall. As we get
> more
> > > committers working on the CDT, the need to communicate and
> co-ordinate
> > > with
> > > eachother grows as well. We have all run into instances in our 
> > > development careers where someone changed some code out 
> from under 
> > > our feet and caused us more work that we had planned.
> > >
> > > As project lead, I'd like to make sure we have the right
> > communications
> > > channels in place to ensure that conflicts are minimized. 
> If anyone
> > has
> > > ideas please let me know. We have a server on the net,
> > cdt.eclipse.org,
> > > that
> > > we can use for some kind of collaboration tooling. I'll 
> snoop around
> > and
> > > see
> > > what I can find.
> > >
> > > Thanks, and I look forward to first having this problem and then
> > solving
> > > it
> > > :),
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > >> Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:49 AM
> > >> To: CDT General developers list.
> > >> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Doug Schaefer" <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>
> > >> To: "CDT General developers list." <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:49 PM
> > >> Subject: [cdt-dev] Vote for Committer Restructuring
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hey gang,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > As we talked about at the summit, I'd like to restructure the
> > > committers
> > >> > list to allow all code committers full access to all 
> of the CDT.
> > > This
> > >> > will allow current committers to fix bugs and 
> implement features
> > > that
> > >> > spread across plugin boundaries in the CDT.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > We will still apply restrictions to people who only want to
> commit
> > > docs
> > >> > or tests and who don't want write access to the code (projects
> > > labelled
> > >> > Doc and Test below). We'll also keep the contrib 
> plugins separate
> > > from
> > >> > the main CDT.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > The mechanics can get tricky, but we'll try the easy way first,
> by
> > >> > calling a vote for all committers to access 
> everything. If we get 
> > >> > objections, we can call for more detailed list by list vote.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > After we resolve this, I will also be nominating 
> others who have
> > > made
> > >> > significant contributions. But let's get through this first.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > So without further adieu, I call for the following people for
> > > committers
> > >> > to the following projects in the CDT. These people are already
> > > listed as
> > >> > committer on one or more of the subprojects. If I 
> forgot someone,
> > > please
> > >> > let me know and I'll add them (once I remember them actually
> being
> > a
> > >> > committer, that is). Also, people on the list can take this
> > > opportunity
> > >> > to have themselves removed if they no longer wish committer
> status
> > > :-(.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Please review carefully and vote (remember only 
> committers have a
> > > vote,
> > >> > although we appreciate everyone's thoughts on this)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Committers:
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Alain Magloire (QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          David Inglis (QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Mikhail Khodjaiants (QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Thomas Fletcher (QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Sebastien Marineau (QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Leo Treggiari (Intel)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Mikhail Sennikovsky (Intel)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Chris Recoskie (TI)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          John Camelon (IBM)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Andrew Niefer (IBM)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Bogdan Gheorghe (IBM)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Sean Evoy (IBM)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Hoda Amer (Independent)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Vladimir Hirsl (Independent)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Chris Wiebe (Independent)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          Doug Schaefer (Eclipse CDT Project Lead/QNX)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          John Duimovich (Eclipse Tools PMC/IBM)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Projects:
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.aix
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.ia64
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.ppc
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.x86
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.x86_64
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.macosx
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.qnx
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.solaris
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.core.win32
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.mi.core
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.mi.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.debug.ui.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.doc.isv (Doc)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.doc.user (Doc)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.launch
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.make.core
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.make.core.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.make.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.core
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.core.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.gnu.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.ui.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.refactoring
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.refactoring.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.releng (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.sdk
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.sdk-feature
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.testing (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.testing-feature (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.ui
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt.ui.tests (Test)
> > >> >
> > >> > -          org.eclipse.cdt-feature
> > >> >
> > >> >
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