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[cdt-dev] Code completion filtering discussion - new log in the fire :-)
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Hello Doug and all,
since the date for the fall conference is approaching ...
and the discussion has died down somewhat ...
and since I would to have a result soon so I can proceed to supply the implementation ...
I thought I'd put another log in the fire and have prepared a few slides which summarize my suggestion for https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=104792
I'd like to put this up for discussion here. Is it still a matter for discussion at the conference? When can a decision be made about this issue?
Thanks,
Norbert
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ploett, Norbert
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2005 16:09
An: 'CDT General developers list.'
Betreff: AW: [cdt-dev] Code completion filtering discussion at the CDT Fall Conference ?
Doug,
what kind of input do you want?
- PowerPoint slides?
- More detailed specification or requirements document? (Summarizing the results from the discussion in bugzilla 104792)
Do you want to incorporate it into your material yourself or give me a few minutes to introduce the stuff?
I'd mail my materials to you as soon as possible / attach it to 104792 so you can use them in your preparation and so that the material will not be entirely new to the community when it is presented.
Or what do you suggest?
Greets
Norbert
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Doug Schaefer
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. September 2005 14:21
An: CDT General developers list.
Betreff: RE: [cdt-dev] Code completion filtering discussion at the CDT Fall Conference ?
I think we can work this into the parser part of the talk. I have some plans
for vastly improving the performance of the DOM that will directly affect
all features that use it, including code completion. I'll certainly be open
to your input.
Thanks,
Doug Schaefer
Senior Software Developer
QNX Software Systems
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ploett, Norbert
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:24 AM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: [cdt-dev] Code completion filtering discussion at the CDT Fall
> Conference ?
>
> Hello Derrick and all,
>
> now that I am sure that I will be attending the conference I would like
> to suggest discussing the topic of code completion filtering if there is
> sufficient public interest. For details see the PR
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=104792 .
>
> Several paople have responded to my postings and I think that now that
> the indexer is mature enough to deliver fairly reliable and complete
> information the question of how can the indexer information be enhanced
> by other help providers may be of interest for many parties.
>
> What do you think?
>
> I would volunteer to give a presentation of the information and ideas I
> have collected so far and my suggestions for a solution (say, 20
> minutes), lead the discussion and document the results.
>
> Can you make it fit, e.g. on Thursday?
>
> Greetings,
>
>
> Norbert Ploett
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im
> Auftrag von Derrick Keefe
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. August 2005 17:03
> An: 'CDT General developers list.'
> Betreff: [cdt-dev] CDT Fall Conference
>
>
>
> Logistics:
>
> October 25-27
>
> Location: Ottawa, QNX 175 Terence Matthews Crescent, Ottawa Ontario.
>
>
>
> Based on your feedback I have made some changes. I have not made any
> adjustments based on the agenda for language symposium since I've not
> received any details. I feel we should leave language topics scheduled
> as they are in order to leave sufficient time for discussion during the
> conference.
>
>
>
> We can also add BofFs in the evenings. Chris has suggested a BofF on
> Tuesday evening on making the lives of ISVs easier. "Currently there
> are a lot of hoops that we and others jump through to make products out
> of the CDT, and we should try to ease that pain as much as we can."
> Chris I'm assuming that you are leading this BofF.
>
>
>
> We still have two open time slots the first day for Debugging topics, be
> it requirements or design. As well, there is an open time slot on
> Thursday since the subject previously scheduled will be covered off
> under the language symposium.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tuesday October 25, 2005
>
> 9:15-10:00 Introduction and kick-off
>
> 10:00 - 11:00 Presentation: QNX: Debugger Architecture - challenges,
> deficiencies, solutions.
>
> 11:00 -11:15 Break
>
> 11:15- 12:15 Presentation: Open for other projects DSDP or Platform.
>
> 12:15-1:15 Lunch
>
> 1:15 - 2:15 Volunteer? Debugger- Design Session: There are a lot of
> requirements that have been under discussion for the past several months
> from members of the CDT team as well s the DSP team. By fall it may be
> appropriate to hold a Design review or session for these requirements.
>
> 2:15-2:30 Break
>
> 2:30- 3:00 Presentation:LosAlmos:Greg: Extending CDT to debug programs
> in parallel- presentation of the results of this work
>
> 3:00 -4:00 Presentation:Symbian:Lars: Symbian is purposing a
> contribution to the CDT called a Template Engine. This is a template
> based mechanism to create projects, add items to projects, manipulate
> projects, etc. that is driven by an XML file for generating wizard pages
> and a process description which tells the engine how to process the data
> from the wizard. The UI and process side are extensible. Assuming
> sufficient progress is made in the next few weeks, Lars will give a
> presentation with a small demo describing the template engine to check
> whether there is a case for contributing the template engine to CDT.
>
>
>
>
>
> Wednesday October 26, 2005
>
> 9:00 -10:00 Presentation:LosAlmos:Craig: Using CDT as a platform for
> Multi-language support - presentation of work they have done in this
> area. The purpose of the presentation is to make everyone aware of the
> issues and to try and come to a consensus about generic language support
> in CDT.
>
> 10:00-11:00 Presentation -Demo:UIUC:Jeff Overbey: How to Integrate a New
> Language into the CDT in 15 Minutes.
>
> 11:00-11:15 Break
>
> 11:15-12:15 Presentaion:Intel:Leo: The possibility of a CDT-Wide concept
> of a "tool-chain". QNX is interested in working with Intel on this
> presentation.
>
> 12:15 - 1:15 Lunch
>
> 1:15-2:15 Presentation: TI:Martin, QNX:Thomas CDT End User Experience -
> Many companies are now shipping the CDT as part of their own custom
> development environments. This session will present some of the end user
> likes, dislikes and general comments on CDT. This session should be used
> as an opportunity to help plan end-user relevant development activities
> for the CDT that will benefit the widest possible audience and improve
> the overall user experience.
>
> 2:15-2:30 Break
>
> 2:30-3:00 Presentation:QNX: Doug: Parser and all things related -
> Architecture overview as well as current issues challenges.
>
> 3:00 - 4:00 Discussion:Intel:Leo: Discussion of where we think CDT is
> with regards to scalability and performance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thursday October 27, 2005
>
> 9:15-10:15 Presentaion:Intel:Leo & Chris - Build system requirements
>
> 10:15-10:30 Break
>
> 10:30 - 11:30 Open time slot - This was a place holder for a Language
> Development Tool subject by other projects such as LDP, DSP or the
> Platform. Since this will be covered off in the language symposium on
> Friday, this now becomes an open time slot
>
> 11:30 12:00 Discussion:Intel: Leo: Synchronizing project loading so that
> project files (.cdtproject, .cdtbuild) are loaded before things like
> indexers, builders, start running. 12:00-1:00 Lunch
>
> 1:00-2:00 Presentation: QNX:Doug: CDT and the Next Generation C/C++
> Developer - discussion around future strategy and vision for the CDT
> project.
>
> 2:00-3:00 Presentation: QNX: Future Project Planning - 12 month view of
> our release and what we plan to do for them.
>
> 3:00-3:15 Break
>
> 3:15-4:15 Volunteer?: Facilitated Discussion. Based on our past
> experience, what worked or didn't as far as how we ran the projects.
> Where can we improve?
>
>
>
>
>
> Numbers so far:
>
> Los Alamos:(2)
>
> Symbian: (2)
>
> TI:Ch:(4)
>
> Intel: (4)
>
> Nokia:(3).
>
> WindRiver:(3)
>
> QNX:(7)
>
> UIUC (3)
>
> Altera (2)
>
> Eclispe Foundation
>
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