RE: [cdt-dev] CDT Fall Conference

[Lars.Kurth@xxxxxxxxxxx]

>>  3:30-4:30 Presentaion:Symbian:who?:
Build system requirements
> I assume that these are
MBS requirements.  I suggest that I lead a session requesting MBS
requirements and anyone that has requirements, > including Symbian,
can present them.  If anyone else wants to present requirements, please
speak up so that we can know if 1 hour is 
> enough.
OK. I think we can have a discussion
regarding MBS requirements with Leo in the next few weeks. I do not think
that there are many requirements from Symbian's side, except for general
improvement suggestions and recent experience from porting our build process
to MBS.

> 1:15-2:15 Intertest:symbian: Volunteer?
How to contribute to CDT. Symbian is also looking into 
> donating some technology, but are unsure about the process, etc.
We have been having an initial discussion
with Sebastien Marineau and Bjorn Freeman-Benson regarding this item to
get some more information. We will take this further in the next few weeks
and will probably have a concrete proposal regarding donation of what we
call the Template Engine.This is a template based mechanism to create projects,
add items to projects, manipulate projects, etc. that is driven by an XML
file for generating wizard pages and a process description which tells
the engine how to process the data from the wizard. UI and process side
are extensible. Assuming we make sufficient progress in the next few weeks,
I could give a presentation with a small demo describing the template engine
to check whether there is a case for contributing the template engine to
CDT. 

Best Regards
-- Lars

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I have some comments on some
of the sessions that I proposed and others:
 
>  3:30-4:30 Presentaion:Symbian:who?:
Build system requirements
 
I assume that these are MBS
requirements.  I suggest that I lead a session requesting MBS requirements
and anyone that has requirements, including Symbian, can present them.
 If anyone else wants to present requirements, please speak up so
that we can know if 1 hour is enough.
 
>   2:45
-4:15 Intertest:Intel:who?: Discussion of where we think CDT is with regards
to scalability and performance.
 
I would suggest that this be
part of  9:00-10:00Presentation:
QNX: CDT End User Experience.
 I don’t have anything myself to present in this area.  I’m
interested in hearing from others what size applications their end users
have been successfully developing using CDT.  Are any other companies
going to present end user feedback?  If so, maybe one hour is not
enough for this.
 
>  11:15-12:15 Presentaion:Intel:Leo:
The possibility of a CDT-Wide concept of a "tool-chain". QNX
is interested in working with intel on this presentation.
 
I’m thinking now of CDT-Wide
concepts of “build configuration”, “tool-chain” and “tool”.  I
need to put my thoughts down on paper and share them with the QNX folks.
 I think this could generate a lot of discussion since it could involve
architecture and API changes.  I’m not sure that 1 hour is enough.
 
>  9:00 -10:00 Presentation:LosAlmos:Craig:
Using CDT as a platform for Multi-language support - presentation of work
they have done in this area.
 
I think this could generate
a lot of discussion since it could involve architecture and API changes.
 I’m not sure that 1 hour is enough.
 
>  10:15 11:15 Intertest:Intel:
volunteer?: Discussion of CDT "singletons" and other CDT architecture
topics - I remember a mailing list discussion regarding some aspect of
the architecture that Doug questioned.  If we don't talk about this
now we may never do it.
 
This came up in the context
of the early discussions of how to turn CDT into a multi-language platform.
 There are 3 “architecture” topics that I am interested in:
1.  CDT changes to support
Fortran and other compiled languages – this is being covered in other
talks
2.  CDT-Wide concepts
of “build configuration”, “tool-chain” and “tool” – this is being
covered in another talk
3.  Synchronizing project
loading so that project files (.cdtproject, .cdtbuild) are loaded before
things like indexers, builders, start running – we could talk about this
here, or maybe it should be a smaller group…
 
 
Thanks,
Leo

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Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT Fall Conference
 
 
Correction on logistics date
below

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Hello here are the details as they
stand.
Logistics:
October 25-27
Location: Ottawa
See agenda below
 
We still need volunteers for some subjects
so don't be shy. As well, we still have room for additional presentations.
I gave everyone an hour unless they indicated otherwise; let me know if
adjustments are required. I tried to group subjects so that there is some
continuity.
 
I have used the term presentation,
but really the form will be entirely up to the persons driving the session.
The session can be a panel discussion, a proposal, design proposal review,
requirements review for upcoming development etc.. The sessions are meant
to be highly interactive; I have no doubt they will be. Please provide
me with abstract of your topic so people have a good idea what's going
to be discussed.
 
Tuesday October 25, 2005
9:15-9:30 Introduction and kick-off

9:30- 10:30 Presentation: QNX: Debugger
Architecture - challenges, deficiencies, solutions. 
10:30- 11:30 Presentation: Open for
other projects DSP or Platform.
11:30-12:30 Lunch
12:30 - 2:00 Volunteer? Debugger- Design
Session: There are a lot of requirements that have been under discussion
for the past several months from members of the CDT team as well s the
DSP team. By fall it may be appropriate to hold a Design review or session
for these requirements.
2:00-2:15 Break
2:15- 2:45 Presentation:LosAlmos:Greg:
Extending CDT to debug programs in parallel- presentation of the results
of this work 
2:45 -4:15 Intertest:Intel:who?: Discussion
of where we think CDT is with regards to scalability and performance.
 
Wednesday October 26, 2005
9:00 -10:00 Presentation:LosAlmos:Craig:
Using CDT as a platform for Multi-language support - presentation of work
they have done in 
this area.
10:00-11:00 Presentation -Demo:UIUC:Jeff
Overbey: "How to Integrate a New Language into the CDT in 15 Minutes,"
11:00-11:15 Break
11:15-12:15 Presentaion:Intel:Leo:
The possibility of a CDT-Wide concept of a "tool-chain". QNX
is interested in working with intel on this presentation.
12:15 - 1:15 Lunch 
1:15 - 2:15 volunteer? Language Development
Tool Kit - there is some grass roots initiatives within CDT for this.  It
would be a good idea to have a session on this and invite those from other
projects such as LDP, DSP and the Platform
2:15 - 3:15 Presentaion: QNX: CDT and
the Next Generation C/C++ Developer - discussion around future strategy
and vision for the CDT project.
3:15-3:30 Break
3:30-4:30 Presentaion:Symbian:who?:
Build system requirements
 
 
 
Thursday October 27, 2005
9:00-10:00Presentation: QNX: CDT End
User Experience - Many companies are now shipping the CDT as part of their
own custom development environments. This session will present some of
the end user likes, dislikes and general comments on CDT. This session
should be used as an opportunity to help plan end-user relevant development
activities for the CDT that will benefit the widest possible audience and
improve the overall user experience.
10:00-10:15 Break
10:15 11:15 Intertest:Intel: volunteer?:
Discussion of CDT "singletons" and other CDT architecture topics
- I remember a mailing list discussion regarding some aspect of the architecture
that Doug questioned.  If we don't talk about this now we may never
do it.
11:15-12:15 Presentation: QNX: Future
Project Planning - 12 month view, as well an open form for proposal on
how we could change the way we do things.
1:15-2:15 Intertest:symbian: Volunteer?
How to contribute to CDT. Symbian is also looking into donating some technology,
but are unsure about the process, etc.
2:15-3:15 Volunteer?: Facilitated Discussion.
Based on our past experience, what worked or didn't as far as how we ran
the projects. Where can we improve.
 
 
 
Numbers so far and growing:
Los Alamos:(2)
Symbian: (2)
TI:Ch:(4)
Intel: (4)
Nokia:(3). 
WindRiver:(3)
QNX:(7)
UIUC (3)
Eclispe Foundation

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Hi, 
I would like to start booking flights and accomodation as well. Can you
please confirm the dates and give us an idea where it is held.
Regards 
-- Lars

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Any idea where this will be held? Can you recommend a hotel?

Thanks,

Greg

On Jul 6, 2005, at 9:31 PM, Derrick Keefe wrote:

> Below are some of the details and the items that people have  
> expressed an
> interesting in for a fall CDT conference. So far, we have several
 
> people
> signed up for presentations.  We are also looking for people
champion
> specific topics e.g. initiate discussions now on a given topic, see
 
> what
> progress can be made before conference, chair a discussion/design
 
> session or
> give a presentation. Please sign-up and participate.
>
> Logistics:
> Duration 2-3 days, This will depend on amount of content
> Location: Ottawa
> The Proposed date is the week of Oct 24-28*
> Oct 17-21 and Sept 26-30 are potential other dates if Oct 24-28  
> does not
> work.
>
> Below are the subjects people have either signed up to do a  
> presentation on
> or have indicated that they would like to see a session on.  
I  
> have used
> the term presentation, but really the form will be entirely up to
the
> persons driving the session.  The session can be a panel discussion,
a
> proposal, design proposal review, requirements review for upcoming
> development etc.  The session are meant to be highly interactive.
>
> Presentation:LosAlmos:Greg:Extending CDT to debug programs in  
> parallel-
> presentation of the results of this work
> Presentation:LosAlmos:Craig:Using CDT as a platform for Multi-language
> support - presentation of work they have done in this area.
> Presentation:QNX: Debugger Architecture - challenges, deficiencies,
> solutions.
> Presentaion: QNX: CDT and the Next Generation C/C++ Developer -  
> discussion
> around future strategy and vision for the CDT project.
> Presentation: QNX: Future Project Planning - 12 month view, as well
 
> an open
> form for proposal on how we could change the way we do things.
> Presentation: QNX:CDT End User Experience - Many companies are now
 
> shipping
> the CDT as part of their own custom development environments.  This
 
> session
> will present some of the end user likes, dislikes and general  
> comments on
> CDT.  This session should be used as an opportunity to help plan
 
> end-user
> relevant development activities for the CDT that will benefit the
 
> widest
> possible audience and improve the overall user experience.
> Intertest:general: Language Development Tool Kit - there is some  
> grass roots
> initiatives within CDT for this.  It would be a good idea to
have a  
> session
> on this and invite those from other projects such as LDP, DSP and
the
> Platform
> Intertest:symbian: Future release planning.
> Intertest:symbian: Build system requirements
> Presentaion:Intel: The possibility of a CDT-Wide concept of a "tool-
> chain".
> QNX is interested in working with intel on this presentation.
> Intertest:Intel: Architecture: Discussion of CDT "singletons"
and  
> other CDT
> architecture topics - I remember a mailing list discussion  
> regarding some
> aspect of the architecture that Doug questioned.  If we don't
talk  
> about
> this now we may never do it.
> Intertest:Intel: Discussion of where we think CDT is with regards
to
> scalability.
> Intertest:symbian: Debugger requirements
> Intertest:general: Debugger- Design Session: There are a lot of  
> requirements
> that have been under discussion for the past several months from  
> members of
> the CDT team as well s the DSP team.  By fall it may be appropriate
 
> to hold
> a Design review or session for these requirements.
> Intertest:symbian: How  to contribute to CDT.  Symbian is
also  
> looking into
> donating some technology, but are unsure about the process, etc.
>
> Numbers so far and growing:
> Los Alamos:(2)
> Symbian: (2)
> TI:Ch:(4)
> Intel: (4)
> Nokia:(3).
> WindRiver:(3)
> QNX:(7)
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