Re: [cdt-dev] open declaration vs open definition

[Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thomas Fletcher wrote:

> So by --1 are you concluding +1 ?
>
> Since key bindings are re-mappable, and we are closing down other items
> due to end game strategy, I'd say -1 to this request right now, but look
> at changing the default behaviour (to include the "context awareness" after)
> this release.  
>  

I'm certainly not talking about addressing this in 3.0. My point is that 
I've seen some odd behavior with F3. In my opinion, F3 should go to the 
declaration of the thing I've selected that adds the most value to me. 
That's pretty hard to define at the best of times, but I'd like to see 
some effort into making F3 smarter.

> Glad to hear that people are getting a chance to get some working miles on
> this now.
>
> Thomas ... who wishes there was a toggle header/source command in 3.0 =;-) 
>
>  

Doug ... who wishes there were an infinite number of people wanting to 
contribute to the CDT ;-) .

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> > Sent: July 22, 2005 12:08 AM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] open declaration vs open definition
> >
> > --1.
> >
> > I agree with Chris. When I hit F3, I'd like it to do the same 
> > as it does in the JDT, open the definition of the thing. Sure 
> > it is also the declaration, but you have to ask yourself, why 
> > did you hit F3. It is hardly ever to look at the prototype, 
> > since you've managed to figure it out enough to put in the 
> > reference. It is to look at the implementation of the thing 
> > to figure out what it does.
> >
> > My pet peeve is when F3 opens up the forward declaration of a class. 
> > What use is that?
> >
> > Just my thoughts,
> > Doug.
> >
> > John Camelon wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > -1.  
> > >
> > > I personally would have preferred F3 to toggle between 
> > > declaration/definition depending on the context so that it 
> > >      
> > is easy to 
> >    
> >
> > > switch between declaration and definition with only one digit.
> > > That being said, considering the other threads on this list in the 
> > > past day concerning the evolution of CDT and the importance of a 
> > > meaningful end game plan, I would not recommend it at this time.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > JohnC
> > >
> > > cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/21/2005 09:21:10 PM:
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > After using these features (which are very nice) for a while I'm 
> > > > finding the key bindings "feel wrong."  I want to look at 
> > > >        
> > the code 
> >    
> >
> > > > inside a function so out of habit I hit F3.  But that takes me to 
> > > > the prototype not the body.  Now I have to go back to where I was 
> > > > and try again with Ctrl+F3.  It seems I'm fighting muscle 
> > > >        
> > memory all 
> >    
> >
> > > > the way.  I would guess that 90% of the time, Open Definition is 
> > > > want I actually want.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else experiencing this?  I really think the keys should be 
> > > > reversed - F3 for Open Definition, Ctrl+F3 for Open Declaration.  
> > > > And if Open Definition fails, it should fall back to Open 
> > > > Declaration (e.g. If I don't have source for the 
> > > >        
> > function, fall back 
> >    
> >
> > > > to the prototype).  I realize this represents a slight change in 
> > > > behaviour from CDT2.1 but I think it makes more sense and 
> > > >        
> > is more "intuitive."
> >    
> >
> > > > I also realize it is late in the game for CDT 3.0 but 
> > > >        
> > seeing as this 
> >    
> >
> > > > is a major version release, now would be the best opportunity to 
> > > > make this sort of change.
> > > >
> > > > Just my two cents.  Anyone agree?  Rebuttals?
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
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