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Re: [bpmn-user] Disable BPMN Validation

Hi,

Thank you very much for your help, i think we could get the following conclusions about that discussion:

1) Regard the case i'm modeling maybe the right way to proceed i'll have two choice

a) Left the diagram as i've modeled right you've seen, this is not very clean from BPMN point of view but it reach
my goals.

b) Modelling as a XOR Join and find a way to say that only a particulare incoming sequence flow called "A12" will continue the process execution, and the other will produce no effect on process execution.

2) Regards the preference i've checjed my plugin list and i've the EMF Validation Core Plugin, maybe i miss a plugin regarding the
EMF Validator that provide the preference page to the workspace.

Andrea


    See comments below:

    Antoine Toulme ha scritto:



        On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Andrea Zoppello
        <andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>> wrote:

           Hi,

           Sure here's the screenshot.

        OK, you don't need the merging gateway if you don't merge a
        flow, so you should remove the second gateway.


    You're right, i need to explicit the merge point because i need it
    to generate some deployable workflow artifacts, and even
    if this is not a real case of "merge" i need to inform the
    workflow engine that the process execution is resumed to the main
    path of execution.
    I'm using jbpm and in jbpm i need to resume the process execution
    with a xor join node.

    If i don't put the element on the diagram i would not be able to
    generate code.

        If you want to really be explicit, you can an empty end event
        to both the branches that stop there.



    No it's not my use case, i've not make the end explicit because
    only one branches will really produce the
    end of the process, the other branches means that there are some
    task to be exceuted in parallel but only one
    of the three will continue the process execution.

I suppose you should merge the three flows at the end of the process then, after B1.



    Regards the preferences sorry but maybe i miss something


           because i've not a Model Validation Preference Page. I'm
        using the
           bpmn editor for ganymede train.

        Try typing Model Validation in the filter at the top. It's a
        top level preference node.





    Regards the preference i'll confirm i miss something typing "Model
    Validation" show me  the attached
    screenshot.

That's weird, you should make sure the EMF validation framework is installed.






           Andrea

           Antoine Toulme ha scritto:



               On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Andrea Zoppello
               <andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>
               <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>
               <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>>> wrote:

                  Hi Antoine,

                  You're right i'm tryng to model within a bpmn
        diagram a very
                  strange use case.

                  This is the case:

                  I've a fork node ( modelled as an annotated parallel
        gateway in
                  bpmn editor ), that spans three concurrent
                  execution path, suppose only one ( a specific one ) of
               these path
                  means the process must continue instead the other
        path means
                  only that there are parallel activities to do but
        they don't
                  contribute to the end of the process

                  My first idea is to use another parallel gateway
        annotated
               with an
                  Or Join annotation but this is not right, for that
        reason
               i've put
                  a join ( annotated parallel gateway )  with only one
               sequence-flow
                  incoming and only one sequence-flow outcoming.

                  I need the join, to get the information that the
        process could
                  continue.

                  In that case, the bpmn editor mark the join node with an
               editor.

               I don't understand, can you attach a screenshot ?



                  BTW where is the preference to disable constraint?? i've
               not found
                  it on BPMN preference page.

               It's in the model validation page.



                  I prefer the way of preference page, the other way you
               suggested
                  is to uninstall the stp.bpmn.validation plugin (
        right??)

               Sure, that works every time!




                  Andrea

                  Antoine Toulme ha scritto:

                      Not sure why you'd want to do that... but hey,
        it's simple:
                      close stp.bpmn.validation and no build occurs
        anymore.

                      You can also deselect specific constraints in the
               preferences.

                      Thanks,

                      Antoine

                      On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Andrea Zoppello
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        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx> <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>
               <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx> <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>>
                      <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>
               <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>
                      <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>
               <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx
        <mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx>>>>> wrote:

                         Hi,

                         It's possible to disable validation when
        editing a bpmn
                      diagram???

                         For example i want to be able to have a
        parallel gateway
                      with only
                         one incoming sequence flow and
                         only one outcoming sequence flow.

                         Andrea
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