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		<title>Re: [bpmn-user] Termination of the BPMN modeler subproject</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Folks,<div><br></div><div>the project is looking at a termination review. If you would like to take it forward, please step in.</div><div><br></div><div>Below is the email I sent to the SOA PMC last week.</div><div><br></div>

<div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Antoine<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:04, Antoine Toulme <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:antoine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">antoine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span>Hi all,</span><div>
<br></div><div>I am looking at resigning from my position of lead of the BPMN modeler subproject.</div>
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I would like to offer to conduct a termination review of the BPMN modeler project, according to the guidelines.</div><div>
<br></div><div>If there is interest from one or more of the PMC members to take over the project, I would be happy to discuss it.</div>
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		<description>I have this problem when I open first an xmind mindmap and then I open a UML diagram.2010/11/5 Andrea Zoppello &amp;lt;andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx&amp;gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have this problem when I open first an xmind mindmap and then I open a UML diagram.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/5 Andrea Zoppello <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx">andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx</a>&gt;</span><br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside
that subprocess activity<br>
i&#39;ve put a sequence flow with three task.<br>
<br>
Once i&#39;ve saved all the modification i&#39;ve deleted the &quot;.bpmn_diagram&quot;
file leaving the &quot;.bpmn&quot; file.<br>
Then i&#39;ve try to regenerate the bpmn_diagram file using the function
&quot;Initialize bpmn_diagram&quot; and<br>
i&#39;ve a corrupted diagram....<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on that?? Is there a bug??<br>
<br>
Andrea<br>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[It&#39;s nasty combo, between the modeler implementing a lot of layouts and GMF not working well with containers.<div><br></div><div>The field is unexplored beyond that and you can start from the modeler and end in GMF, or vice-versa.<br>

<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 09:20, Andrea Zoppello <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx">andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">




  

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Hi Antoine,<br>
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Thank you for the response. <br>
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Now i know it&#39;s a GMF problem.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not sure what you are suggesting about... Should i look at the code
of GMF or at<br>
the modeler code??<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not an expert of GMF.... so i was figuring if is there a quick way
to solve this...<br>
<br>
Andrea<br>
Il 05/11/2010 16:23, Antoine Toulme ha scritto:
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">GMF doesn&#39;t work with this. Feel free to look at the code.
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    <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Hi,<br>
    <br>
I&#39;m using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios.<br>
    <br>
I&#39;ve made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside
that subprocess activity<br>
i&#39;ve put a sequence flow with three task.<br>
    <br>
Once i&#39;ve saved all the modification i&#39;ve deleted the &quot;.bpmn_diagram&quot;
file leaving the &quot;.bpmn&quot; file.<br>
Then i&#39;ve try to regenerate the bpmn_diagram file using the function
&quot;Initialize bpmn_diagram&quot; and<br>
i&#39;ve a corrupted diagram....<br>
    <br>
Any thoughts on that?? Is there a bug??<br>
    <br>
Andrea<br>
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		<title>Re: [bpmn-user] Bug in Initialize .bpmn_diagram file when a looping subprocess exist??</title>
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		<description>Title: Hi Antoine, Thank you for the response. Now i know it's a GMF problem. I'm not sure what you are suggesting about... Should i look at the code of GMF or at the modeler code?? I'm not an expert of GMF.... so i was figuring if is there a quick way to ...</description>
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Hi Antoine,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the response. <br>
<br>
Now i know it's a GMF problem.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure what you are suggesting about... Should i look at the code
of GMF or at<br>
the modeler code??<br>
<br>
I'm not an expert of GMF.... so i was figuring if is there a quick way
to solve this...<br>
<br>
Andrea<br>
Il 05/11/2010 16:23, Antoine Toulme ha scritto:
<blockquote
 cite=""
 type="cite">GMF doesn't work with this. Feel free to look at the code.
  <div><br>
  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 06:58, Andrea
Zoppello <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="mailto:andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx">andrea.zoppello@xxxxxx</a>&gt;</span>
wrote:<br>
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 style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
    <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Hi,<br>
    <br>
I'm using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios.<br>
    <br>
I've made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside
that subprocess activity<br>
i've put a sequence flow with three task.<br>
    <br>
Once i've saved all the modification i've deleted the ".bpmn_diagram"
file leaving the ".bpmn" file.<br>
Then i've try to regenerate the bpmn_diagram file using the function
"Initialize bpmn_diagram" and<br>
i've a corrupted diagram....<br>
    <br>
Any thoughts on that?? Is there a bug??<br>
    <br>
Andrea<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside
that subprocess activity<br>
i&#39;ve put a sequence flow with three task.<br>
<br>
Once i&#39;ve saved all the modification i&#39;ve deleted the &quot;.bpmn_diagram&quot;
file leaving the &quot;.bpmn&quot; file.<br>
Then i&#39;ve try to regenerate the bpmn_diagram file using the function
&quot;Initialize bpmn_diagram&quot; and<br>
i&#39;ve a corrupted diagram....<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on that?? Is there a bug??<br>
<br>
Andrea<br>
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		<description>Title: Hi, I'm using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios. I've made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside that subprocess activity i've put a sequence flow with three task. Once i've saved all the modification i've deleted the ".bpmn_di...</description>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm using bpmn modeler shipped with Helios.<br>
<br>
I've made a bpmn diagram with a looping subprocess activity and inside
that subprocess activity<br>
i've put a sequence flow with three task.<br>
<br>
Once i've saved all the modification i've deleted the ".bpmn_diagram"
file leaving the ".bpmn" file.<br>
Then i've try to regenerate the bpmn_diagram file using the function
"Initialize bpmn_diagram" and<br>
i've a corrupted diagram....<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on that?? Is there a bug??<br>
<br>
Andrea<br>
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		<description> This tool is compliant with BPMN 1.1, which has no specific metamodel. We don&amp;#39;t generate BPMN, we comply with the notation.&amp;#xA0;We save to XMI, following the xsd we used to generate our modeler.&amp;#xA0;There is no logo anywhere on this tool. It is open source under ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Vinicius, please see my answers inline:<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 13:16, vinicius afonso <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:afonsovinicius@xxxxxxxxxxxx">afonsovinicius@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>Hi, how are you?<br>



My name is Vinicius Afonso from Brasil and I would like to do some 
questions about the BPMN Modeler.<br>If you can answer will help us so 
much!<br><br><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Aqui no Brasil n&#xF3;s temos uma empresa que 
trabalha com processos.">Here in Brazil we have a 
company that works with process.
<br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Esta empresa trabalha com IBM Domino (linguagem LotusScript) 
creio que conhe&#xE7;a.">This company works with 
IBM Domino (LotusScript).
<br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Gostar&#xED;amos de trabalhar com um BPMN Modeler e gostar&#xED;amos de 
saber:">We would like to work 
with a BPMN Modeler and would like to know:
<br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="1)
 Como esta ferramenta gera o BPMN?">1) How this tool 
generates the BPMN?</span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>This tool is compliant with BPMN 1.1, which has no specific metamodel. We don&#39;t generate BPMN, we comply with the notation.&#xA0;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="1)
 Como esta ferramenta gera o BPMN?">
<br><br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="2)
 Qual o formato de arquivo que ela gera / entrega?">2) What is the file 
format it generates / delivery?
<br></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>We save to XMI, following the xsd we used to generate our modeler.&#xA0;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="2)
 Qual o formato de arquivo que ela gera / entrega?"><br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="3)
 A ferramenta pode ser customizada com nossa logomarca?">3) The tool can
 be 
customized with our logo? </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Tem custos?">It costs?
<br></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>There is no logo anywhere on this tool. It is open source under the EPL, so you should read it carefully and get legal help to understand the implications, as I am not a lawyer.</div>

<div>To make it simple, EPL lets you do anything you want, but if you modify the code, you have to make public your changes. Only modifications to the code need to be made public.&#xA0;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Tem custos?"><br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="4)
 Qual o formato de sa&#xED;da / formato final desta ferramenta para que ela 
seje carregada direto na nossa ferramenta desenvolvida em IBM DOMINO 
(LotusScript)?">4) What is the format of 
exit / final format of this tool so that it seje charged straight into 
our tool developed at IBM DOMINO (LotusScript)?
<br></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>There is no conversion anywhere.&#xA0;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">

<div><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="4)
 Qual o formato de sa&#xED;da / formato final desta ferramenta para que ela 
seje carregada direto na nossa ferramenta desenvolvida em IBM DOMINO 
(LotusScript)?">
<br></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="Agradecemos muito sua aten&#xE7;&#xE3;o.">We greatly appreciate 
your attention. </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="E esperamos futuros contatos ap&#xF3;s termos sanadas estas 
d&#xFA;vidas!">And we expect further 
contact after we have resolved these questions!
<br></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Sure. We welcome your participation!&#xA0;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">

<div><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" title="E esperamos futuros contatos ap&#xF3;s termos sanadas estas 
d&#xFA;vidas!"></span><span title="Um abra&#xE7;o,">Regards,
<br></span><span title="Vinicius Afonso.">Vinicius Afonso.</span></span></div>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:46:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[bpmn-user] IBM Domino Lotus Script integration</title>
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		<description>Hi, how are you? My name is Vinicius Afonso from Brasil and I would like to do some questions about the BPMN Modeler.If you can answer will help us so much!Here in Brazil we have a company that works with process. This company works with IBM Domino (LotusS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>Hi, how are you?<br>

My name is Vinicius Afonso from Brasil and I would like to do some 
questions about the BPMN Modeler.<br>If you can answer will help us so 
much!<br><br><span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="Aqui no Brasil n&#xF3;s temos uma empresa que 
trabalha com processos.">Here in Brazil we have a 
company that works with process.
<br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="Esta empresa trabalha com IBM Domino (linguagem LotusScript) 
creio que conhe&#xE7;a.">This company works with 
IBM Domino (LotusScript).
<br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="Gostar&#xED;amos de trabalhar com um BPMN Modeler e gostar&#xED;amos de 
saber:">We would like to work 
with a BPMN Modeler and would like to know:
<br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="1)
 Como esta ferramenta gera o BPMN?">1) How this tool 
generates the BPMN?
<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="2)
 Qual o formato de arquivo que ela gera / entrega?">2) What is the file 
format it generates / delivery?
<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="3)
 A ferramenta pode ser customizada com nossa logomarca?">3) The tool can
 be 
customized with our logo? </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="Tem custos?">It costs?
<br><br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="4)
 Qual o formato de sa&#xED;da / formato final desta ferramenta para que ela 
seje carregada direto na nossa ferramenta desenvolvida em IBM DOMINO 
(LotusScript)?">4) What is the format of 
exit / final format of this tool so that it seje charged straight into 
our tool developed at IBM DOMINO (LotusScript)?
<br>
<br></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="Agradecemos muito sua aten&#xE7;&#xE3;o.">We greatly appreciate 
your attention. </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" title="E esperamos futuros contatos ap&#xF3;s termos sanadas estas 
d&#xFA;vidas!">And we expect further 
contact after we have resolved these questions!
<br></span><span title="Um abra&#xE7;o,">Regards,
<br></span><span title="Vinicius Afonso.">Vinicius Afonso.</span></span></div>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:16:36 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo,Thanks for the information. The http://www.eclarus.com/resources.html site looks to have a lot of info.Arvind 2010/6/7 Pablo S&amp;#xE1;nchez &amp;lt;phackwer@xxxxxxxxx&amp;gt;-- =================================Pablo Santiago S&amp;#xE1;nchezphackwer@xxxxxxxxx (61) 9975-0883http:/...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Pablo,<br><br>Thanks for the information. The <a href="http://www.eclarus.com/resources.html" target="_blank">http://www.eclarus.com/resources.html</a> site looks to have a lot of info.<br><br>Arvind <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2010/6/7 Pablo S&#xE1;nchez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:phackwer@xxxxxxxxx">phackwer@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Forgot to say:<br><br>About the BPMN 2 XPDL conversion, here is a great documentation:<br><br><a href="http://www.bpmn.org/Documents/XPDL_BPMN.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.bpmn.org/Documents/XPDL_BPMN.pdf</a>&#xA0; <br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
2010/6/7 Pablo S&#xE1;nchez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:phackwer@xxxxxxxxx" target="_blank">phackwer@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

I found a site with some great references, specially the poster they have:<br><br><a href="http://www.eclarus.com/resources.html" target="_blank">http://www.eclarus.com/resources.html</a><br><br>The poster is CC licensed, meaning you can do almost everything you want with it (except clain it is yours, hehehe).<br>


<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/7 W&#x142;adys&#x142;aw W&#x119;glarz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wladyslaw.weglarz@xxxxxxxxxxx" target="_blank">wladyslaw.weglarz@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">












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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">I send you specyfication for BPMN.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">&#xA0;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">By</span></p>

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<b>To:</b> BPMN user questions and community.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bpmn-user] Information about BPMN</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Hi Pablo,<br>
<br>
I came across your email on the bpmn user group. I&#39;m interested in learning
BPMN. Would you be able to share information / tutorial regarding BPMN to help
me aid in my learning process?<br>
<br>
Arvind </p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">2010/6/3 Pablo S&#xE1;nchez &lt;<a href="mailto:phackwer@xxxxxxxxx" target="_blank">phackwer@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Hi, my name is Pablo, and I&#39;m
from Argentina but live in Brasil, so, forgive my bad english.<br>
<br>
Is there any download avaliable for testing the BPMN?<br>
<br>
I&#39;m building a new application which uses the WfMF OMG standard, and, althought
I found a bunch of GPLed and free BPMN that exports XPDL files, I didn&#39;t found
this as a planned feature for the BPMN Modeller plugin.<br>
<br>
Also, I couldn&#39;t find any detail about the modelling process. Will it be
similar to the UML2 tools, that allow me to add UML 2 diagrams on any kind o
project, or will it be as most of the avaliable tools based on eclipse, forcing
us to create a new project only for documentation? It would be great to be able
to do it all in one single project...<br>
<br>
Thank you<br clear="all">
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