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Re: [aspectj-users] Building Eclipse from source using AspectJ; Checkpointing; Tracing


Craig,

Do you get the error when running the configuration or opening it? I presume your local Eclipse project is actually call "demo.hello" i.e. you went to equinox-incubator/aspects/demos/demo.hello and simply did "Check Out"? There is a bug in Eclipse 3.2 that means some hard coded values end up in the launch configuration but looking at CVS for "Hello World Demo.launch" I don't see any problems. Do you have a space in the directory name for you workspace because that can also cause problems? If the  problem persists you may need to create a new launch configuration specifying the config.ini in the project.

>Additionally in general terms, if I understand Equinox correctly, it allows users to work with specific compilation units called >bundles at the time that aspects are written, thus reducing compilation and linking effort?
Bundles are actually an OSGi thing (Equinox is just one implementation of the specification which happens to be used in Eclipse) and refer to units of development (each one is a plug-in project), deployment and versioning. AspectJ aspects still work at the class level but the Aspects Incubator allows you to scope behaviour at the bundle level which in the Eclipse runtime makes more sense. Not only can you package you new feature (which may comprise classes, interfaces and other stuff as well as an aspect) as a bundle but you can also determine which parts of Eclipse get the new feature by specifying the appropriate bundles.

If you didn't attend EclipseCon 2007 or didn't see my Long Talk you might like to see the slides: http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=sub/&id=3848. They show the various ways to package aspects using the Aspects Incubator (AOSGi) depending on what you are trying to achieve. The demos I showed will be available shortly.

Cheers

Matthew Webster
AOSD Project
Java Technology Centre, MP146
IBM United Kingdom Limited
Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
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Matthew,
 
      Thank you for your advice.  However, I am having trouble with launching a JUnit plugin for the HelloWorld demo.  In the launch configuration, I am getting the error that the "demo.hello project does not exist", which is the default for this launch configuration.  I grabbed the source code directly from CVS, so there should not be a problem there in terms of "things lining up".
 
       Additionally in general terms, if I understand Equinox correctly, it allows users to work with specific compilation units called bundles at the time that aspects are written, thus reducing compilation and linking effort?
 
                                                                             Sincerely,
                                                                             Craig


On 3/13/07, Matthew Webster <matthew_webster@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Craig,


If you want to weave Eclipse then a better approach would be load-time weaving. Please take a look at the Aspects Equinox Incubator
http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/incubator/aspects/index.php. You can pick and choose the plug-ins that need weaving rather than trying to build the whole platform from scratch.

Matthew Webster
AOSD Project
Java Technology Centre, MP146
IBM United Kingdom Limited
Hursley Park, Winchester,  SO21 2JN, England
Telephone: +44 196 2816139 (external) 246139 (internal)


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Hello,
 
   I am interested in integrating a programming language into Eclipse, and I am trying to figure out how to go about understanding how Eclipse works.  To this end, I thought of running Eclipse in a debugger to understand its dynamic behavior.  If that would be the case, I think it would be useful to have some sort of tracing and/or checkpointing support as well as logging.  Because of these issues, AspectJ came to mind because aspects would be a good way to implement these features.  At this time I desire to know, can Eclipse 3.2 be built from source using AspectJ?  I am the Ant build files would need to be altered.  Currently, I am have trouble compiling Eclipse 3.2 using regular Java, getting tens of thousands of errors.  I addressed this problem with another newsgroup, but additionally if anyone has an idea here, I would appreciate it.  Also, could someone comment on the feasibility of implementing the above features using AspectJ?  
 
                                                                              Thanks,
                                                                              Craig
 

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