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Re: [aspectj-dev] IntelliJ IDEA 5 open API

Mik, 
as per http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/opensource/opensource.html
you can get a license for free for open source project development
(f.e. CodeHaus has an agreement for all its projects hosted there) -
but you don't gain access to the IDE sources itself - which indeed
makes it more difficult to dive in as compared to Eclipse. That said
f.e. the javascript plugin sources are available as far as I know.

Alex


On 8/16/05, Mik Kersten <beatmik@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> That statement comes from my experience building the JBuilder plug-in, which
> had open and well documented extensibility APIs.  But when you're trying to
> do something like AspectJ, which simply doesn't fit into the extensibility
> model, it's way harder to do it without open sources.  But the source is
> still not enough because the NetBeans plug-in was way harder to do than the
> Eclipse one.  To be easily extensible the IDE also has to be built on its
> own extensibility APIs and plug-in model.
> 
> I actually really like IDEA because the UI is so elegant and nicely tuned.
> I'm also encouraged by their statement that they're now building on their
> own open APIs.  And just now noticed that it is possible to get the sources
> for non-commercial purposes:
> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/opensource/opensource.html
> 
> So there is some promise there.  But Alex, I think you bring up the key
> point regarding the @AspectJ approach.  Last time that the IntelliJ guys
> tried to add AspectJ I recall them doing it by directly extending their
> parser/ast to support the AspectJ declarations, which required too much
> disruption and resources, especially with the need to do Java 5 around that
> same time.  So they gave up.  Perhaps once @AspectJ has had some user
> mileage on it in AJDT we should consider pinging them?  We could also
> encourage someone from their user community to do it, but again, without a
> genuinely open platform it will likely be too hard to do it without their
> support.
> 
> Mik
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aspectj-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aspectj-dev-
> > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alexandre Vasseur
> > Sent: August 16, 2005 1:11 AM
> > To: AspectJ developer discussions
> > Subject: Re: [aspectj-dev] IntelliJ IDEA 5 open API
> >
> > Hi Mik
> >
> > I don't know how you back up the statement "nowhere near Eclipse's
> > openness". IDEA certainly lacks decent documentation about plugins
> > support and API. The v5 though is a great step forward - though most
> > of the API was already there for v4.x...
> >
> > There has been an AspectJ extension for IDEA v4.x that was done by the
> > JetBrains folks - but this one never reached an "official" status. The
> > OpenAPI was around as well - under some "try it and tell us what you
> > think" umbrella. Perhaps someone will finally volunteer to do one full
> > blown AspectJ 5 plugin for IDEA v5.x. From my experience it would be
> > really straigthforward to do one that supports @AspectJ (ie no custom
> > parser) - though some features are still missing (f.e. custom code
> > completion handler in know file types). For the ".aj" parsing, the
> > IDEA plugin mechanism requires to write a lexer/parser and I am not
> > sure the work that has been done in the AspectJ version of the JDT
> > could be reused.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On 8/15/05, Mik Kersten <beatmik@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Fyi, it looks like support for JSP and JavaScript has made IDEA a bit
> > more
> > > extensible.  Obviously nowhere near Eclipse's openness, but it's nice
> > that
> > > they are considering language extensibility.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/newfeatures.html#openapi
> > >
> > > IntelliJ IDEA 5.0 expands and improves the Open API, making custom
> > plugin
> > > development easier, faster, and more powerful for developers and
> > > third-parties. Many of IntelliJ IDEA's new features are implemented
> > using
> > > the Open API, which shows just how much is possible with plugins in
> > IntelliJ
> > > IDEA 5.0.
> > >
> > > Plugin development support: A new Plugin Module is available, together
> > with
> > > a Plugin Run/Debug configuration dialog, for easier development,
> > running,
> > > and debugging of IntelliJ IDEA plugins
> > > Language API: Many of IntelliJ IDEA's smart language features are now
> > > available to other languages through the new Language API (e.g. the new
> > > JavaScript support uses the Language API). A plugin writer can define a
> > > lexer/parser, reference resolution algorithm, and custom validators to
> > > enable:
> > >
> > > Find usages
> > > Rename refactoring
> > > Goto declaration
> > > View declaration (Ctrl + Shift + I)
> > > Code completion
> > > Safe delete
> > > On-the-fly errors/warnings annotations plus quickfixes and intention
> > actions
> > > And much more
> > > Dozens of other improvements to open up IntelliJ IDEA's architecture for
> > > extension
> > >
> > > Mik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://kerstens.org/mik
> > >
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