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Hi All,

I am looking for a good Academic project that would give good fruits to Aperi. I had a look into the academic projects listed in the Aperi site and was talking to few people in the group. Though I got good replies and data points, I would like to roll this out in the main mailing list to get a greater access to all folks who are involved in Aperi project.

Kindly note that the project duration is of four month and the people who are going to develop the project have very minimal exposure to SAN / Storage domain. Currently they are reading about SAN, Storage Management technologies (CIM/WBEM). I am guiding them in understanding the SAN, various technologies of Storage Management, etc.

It would be of great help and support for us if you can help to move forward.

I have attached the entire mail thread from the very beginning below for your reference.

Thanks,
Vijay S.


From: Todd Singleton [mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:26 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Ramani R Routray; Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

 


Hi Vijay,
let's keep this conversation rolling on the main mailing list.  In that way, you'll have greater access to folks that can help your project.  Perhaps you can re-introduce your situation in an email to.  Then we can go from there.  I spoke with the Aperi team lead, and this was his feedback to me.  

Todd Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli, IBM
Menlo Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx


"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>

09/11/2007 08:39 AM

To

Ramani R Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS

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Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS, "Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>

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RE: Query about academic project ideas

 

 

 


Hi Ramani Routray,

Please let me know your thoughts on my reply / other ideas. From the
document I understand that HBA, Array and other profiles are already
implemented.

It would be really great and of great help if you can suggest any other
ideas on this front.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray [mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Fri 9/7/2007 12:17 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Todd Singleton
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Vijay,

This paper gives an overview of SAN Simulator project:

(See attached file: ROUTRAY-iSAN.pdf)

regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx


            "Vijayprasad

            Srinivasan,

            TLS-Chennai"
To
            <vijayprasads@hcl         Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS  
            .in>
cc
                                      Todd Singleton/San
Jose/IBM@IBMUS,  
            09/06/2007 11:33          "Vijayprasad Srinivasan,

            AM                        TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>  

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Hi Ramani Routray,

Thanks a lot. I understand your concerns. If I understand correctly,
there
are some devices needed to be simulated. Is simulation here means a
device
simulator and a provider. Is it possible to write simulators by
understanding the device functionalities? If yes, then I may need the
functional specification of the device.

It would be great if you can share the list of devices that you are
planning to simulate. I believe small devices/softwares like iSCSI
Target
and Initiator can be simulated easily with out a real device in place.
Here
are some of the probables which you may be interested.
1. Implementation of a SMIS profile like Server, HBA, iSCSI target, only
if
they are not in place already.
2. Implementation of DMTF profiles like Software Inventory, Asset, etc.
3. Any work with SMASH / XAM.

Kindly note that I have very little knowledge in SAN Simulator / ISAN
and
also in Aperi project. I am bit worried whether the above list may suit
Aperi/ISAN or not. Also I have prepared this list keeping in mind that
we
have little time as the project period. But these guys are really
interested and willing to extend their work and share their time even
after
the closure of the project period.

I welcome if you can suggest us any other projects, just in case that we
need the SAN devices in place for this project.

I would request you to share the device agent that you are referring in
your mail. This would help them to understand more about their work.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray [mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx.]
Sent: Thu 9/6/2007 10:27 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Todd Singleton
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Vijay,

Sorry for the late response. I am travelling this week.
Was planning to discuss with Todd about the future course of action,
when I
am back next monday.

Since, you don't have access to storage hardware - I am not sure, what
wud
be the simulation scenario. I can make a snapshot of a device CIM agent
using SAN Simulator tool and send you. But, they would be IBM devices
and
we already have simulated those devices. Pls. let me know - what you
think.

regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx

            "Vijayprasad
            Srinivasan,
            TLS-Chennai"
To
            <vijayprasads@hcl         Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS
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cc
                                      Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
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                                      ideas


Hi Ramani Routray,

Hope you would have missed this mail.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:00 AM
To: Ramani R Routray
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Todd Singleton; Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Ramani Routray,

Yes. You got to the point. Please find my reply inline in the below
mail.

Please let me know if you need any other details.

These students are really interested in this project and particularly in
Storage domain. I believe that they can excel and provide us a good
deliverable at the end.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray [)mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tue 9/4/2007 10:44 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Todd Singleton; Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Vijay,

Based on your description, what I understand is : you would like to
guide
the final year project based Aperi SAN Simulator for three undergrad
BTech
students. We would be happy to collaborate and get you started. Just
wanted
to check few things from you.

     - What would your project timeline (start and end time) ?
       [Vijay] Actually the project period is of 3-4 months that spans
between dec to march end. But their department feels it as short time to
               do a project so they are starting well ahead. They want
to decide the project and the design. So in this case, timeline starts
next
               week and ends by Jan end (Possibly this can extend to
Feb 2 week, if required. But I cant guarantee that as of now).

     - Will you have access to any real SAN or Storage Subsystem ?
       [Vijay] No. They dont have any real SAN or Storage subsystem.

     - Do the students have basic background of SAN, Storage
Management, CIM, WBEM etc.. ?
       [Vijay]. No. Actually I have started guiding them and teaching
all these technologies. The process is on its way.

regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx


            "Vijayprasad

            Srinivasan,

            TLS-Chennai"
To
            <vijayprasads@hcl         Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS

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cc
                                      Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS,

            09/04/2007 09:36          Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS,
            AM                        "Vijayprasad Srinivasan,

                                      TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>

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                                      ideas


Hi Todd,

Thanks a lot.

Hi Ramani Routray,

It would be great if you can give us the details that I have asked in
the
below mail. I have asked for few more days in time.

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Vijay S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Singleton [?mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tue 9/4/2007 9:34 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai; Ramani R Routray
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Vijay,
I have included Romani Routray on this email as he may be able to
provide
better guidance to suit your immediate needs.

Todd Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli, IBM
Menlo Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx

"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
09/01/2007 07:41 AM

To
Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS, Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
cc
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
Subject
RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Dave & Todd,

Sorry for the broken mail. Please read the complete mail below.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:07 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai; 'Todd Singleton'; 'Dave Wolfe'
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Dave & Todd,

I have joined the Aperi-Dev community with my personal mail id
(srinivas.vprasad@xxxxxxxxx) few days back.

It would be nice if you can respond to the below mail. It seems that
they
need to show case by September 4. It would be really helpful if you can
get back to us.

Please let me know what is the right time to talk to you? Also please
let
me know your contact details.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:21 PM
To: 'Todd Singleton'; Dave Wolfe
Cc: 'Raj Kumar'; 'nivetha_srini@xxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas

Hi Dave & Todd,

Thanks a lot. Yes I will join the Aperi-dev community but from my
personal
email id.

As I have told before in the mail, this enquiry is for my cousin. There
are three members who are interested in doing this work. It is something
like this. Every final year student has to do a project and they were
asking my help. I came to know about the Academic projects offered in
Aperi community. I was very happy to see project offering and I asked
them
to go for it. Now they are in way of getting a go ahead from their
department. They have to show case a rough-cut presentation about the
project work and they are in need of the details. So kindly let us know
the device name at least which needs to be simulated. They have a
limited
time as their project period. I will be guiding them through out the
project period by explaining about Storage network, reviewing their
work,
guiding since they all are fresher and don?t have much exposure to
Storage
Industry. Please let me know is this fine. I have marked them in CC.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

From: Todd Singleton [mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx..]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:55 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe
Subject: Re: Query about academic project ideas

Vijay,
Dave forwarded your email to me.  Perhaps I can be of help to you.  Here
are two documents about the SAN Simulator.  We welcome participation:

The code has just been donated from IBM to the Aperi open source
community.  Therefore, we will spend the next few weeks getting the code
incorporated into the community.  The best way for you to participate is
to sign up for the development forum and begin chiming in on the
discussions.  From here, we can get you more and more involved.  Yes, we
do need support for additional devices.

Here is how to get involved on the development forum:
       https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/aperi-dev
Look forward to working with you.

Todd Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli, IBM
Menlo Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx

"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
08/18/2007 09:55 AM


To
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
cc
"Aperi News" <aperi-news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject
RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas

Hi Dave,

Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation. I apologize for the late
reply.

I am interested in Simulators. It would be great if you can share the
details about the work that is already completed and how to extend the
existing framework for new devices. Also please let me know the list of
devices that you look for in short time. In this case, I hope you will
be
sharing the specification that details the requirements that should be
met
by the simulated device. Basically I am looking for functional
specification which details how the simulated device should work and
expected operations list with expected results.

It would be really nice if you can share any design documents that would
make me to understand more about the device simulation framework.

Thanks,
Vijay S.


From: Dave Wolfe [.mailto:dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:03 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; Aperi News
Subject: RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas


> I would like to understand more about the requirements of Storage
Network Environment Simulator and Automated Testing environment.

A major issue in development and testing of Storage Resource Management
systems is the availability of test hardware. CPUs may be cheap and
plentiful these days, but intelligent, high capacity storage subsystems
and fiber channel switches are still premium devices. This is a
particular
problem in open source development where individual developers and their
respective institutions may not have the resources to obtain access to
expensive gadgets.

My vision is a completely self contained simulated SAN environment
suitable for development and testing in a purely virtual setting. Such a
setup would be suitable for unit testing, pre-checkin smoke testing, and
nightly build testing via an automated test suite.

The elements of such a system would be as follows:
1) simulated SMI-S devices (providers) created via a device simulation
framework capable of capturing the state of an existing device or
creating
a device 'from scratch' via a specification language. This is in the
works
already, but work is needed to add more devices, etc.
2) Simulated in-band and out-of-band devices and a fully simulated SAN
topology.This would build upon and work in addition to the SMI-S device
simulator to provide a complete end-to-end simulation for topology and
datapath analysis.
3) For automated testing: 'headless' install, and a test harness for
running and analyzing test results unattended
4) A fully functioning CLI to drive the product through its major
capabilities without the GUI.

And, of course, a battery of tests to run in that test harness. Three
sets
I think: 1) quick smoke test for verification, 2) Nightly test 2-3 hours
worth, 3) Stress and/or comprehensive test 24-48 hours worth.

Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM (dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx) TL: 775-3376 Office:
503-578-3376 Personal: 503-329-3960
UI Technical Lead, Aperi Open Source Storage Management
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi
"A good composer does not imitate; he steals." - Igor Stravinsky


"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
08/05/2007 09:40 PM

To
"Aperi News" <aperi-news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
cc
<aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
Subject
RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas


Hi Dave,

Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Please have a look at my
clarification
inline.

I would like to understand more about the requirements of Storage
Network
Environment Simulator and Automated Testing environment.

Thanks,
Vijay S.

From: aperi-news-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:aperi-news-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx..] On Behalf Of Dave Wolfe
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:36 AM
To: Aperi News
Cc: aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas

Hi Vijay,

With respect to the web page:
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi/Community-Building/Aperi_Academic_Project_I
deas.htm.


and to answer your questions:

1) [What are all the eligibility criteria for taking up a project?] Any
one who has the interest and sufficient resources to participate is
welcome to work on these projects.

2) [What is the expected duration of contribution?] Depends on the
scope,
complexity, and pervasiveness of the contribution. As with any open
source
project we welcome on going support.

3) [How Aperi Project will provide a certificate for the contribution?]
Like other Eclipse projects, Aperi does not have a certification
program.
We are friendly with SNIA which does offer certifications for storage
administration. Seehttp://www.snia.org/education/certification/ for more
info. Is this the sort of certification you meant?
[Vijay] No. I am aware of the SNIA certification programs and am SCP
2006
certified. The certificate I meant is like a participation certificate
in
Aperi?s program.

4) [Is the listed projects all are started or yet to start?] Only the
Storage Network Environment Simulator has any tangible work started. We
are planning on offering a donation from IBM Research for a basic CIM
device simulator under the Aperi project banner. This is 'just' a basic
device simulator. Stitching it into a full blown SAN environment
simulation and hooking that up with an automated testing environment is
still work to be done.

5) [Is any new suggestion welcomed?] Absolutely! Bring them on.

I hope that answers your questions. Please feel free to contact us for
any
further information or to get started on any projects with us...

Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM (dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx) TL: 775-3376 Office:
503-578-3376 Personal: 503-329-3960
UI Technical Lead, Aperi Open Source Storage Management
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi
"A good composer does not imitate; he steals." - Igor Stravinsky


"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
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07/31/2007 02:58 AM

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[aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas

Hi All,

I would like to get some details about Academic Project ideas. I am
posting this mail for my cousin who is studying Bachelor of Engineering
in
Computer Science. The details I would like to know are:

1.        What are all the eligibility criteria for taking up a project?
2.        What is the expected duration of contribution?
3.        How Aperi Project will provide a certificate for the
contribution. Kindly note that certificate might be primary for some
colleges.
4.        Is the listed projects all are started or yet to start?
5.        Is any new suggestion welcomed?

Please let me the answers as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Vijay S.


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