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[amalgam-dev] Re: oAW in Amalgam
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As I recall, just the product line code is left from oAW. This should go to
EMFT, in my opinion.
As for the remaining glue code, I can't imagine there is much here. I'd
like to see a base set of Modeling glue that can be used by adopters, with
perhaps some specific code to accompany each distro. In the case of oAW,
how is it not just a general Modeling collection that favors Xpand over JET,
Xtend over ATL, Xtext over TCS, etc.? As discussed at EclipseCon, why not a
general solution that enables/disables capabilities to allow the user to
select the tool collection they prefer? In this way, each distro may define
a set of defaults, and perhaps some minimal branding.
- Rich
On 4/2/08 7:41 AM, "Markus Voelter" <voelter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ed, Rich,
>
> I think we had discussed this stuff extensively at EclipseCon.
>
> There will be additional code in the oAW "distro" that is not
> in any of the other components. Glue code that ties it together,
> a couple of integration UIs, utlities, etc.
>
> Markus
>
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:48 +0200, Ed Merks <merks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Markus,
>>
>> Typically components share the newsgroup of the containing and users are
>> asked prefix subjects headings, for example with [oAW]. After alll, you
>> have things like Xtext, XPand, and MWE spead across multiple projects and
>> there are newsgroups for those projects already too. So I expect you'd
>> use
>>
>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.modeling.amalgam
>>
>> There is already a real CVS component as well:
>>
>> (Embedded image moved to file: pic23596.jpg)
>>
>> It's not clear what you mean by glue code. I imagine most if not all the
>> code is associated directly with Xpand, Xtend, Xtext, and MWE. What
>> else,
>> specifically, is there that would not logically belong with the former
>> components?
>>
>>
>> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>> mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
>> 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Markus Voelter"
>> <voelter@googlema
>> il.com>
>> To
>> "Richard Gronback"
>> 04/02/2008 07:19 <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> AM voelter@xxxxxxx,
>> amalgam-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> cc
>> Please respond to "Jean Bezivin"
>> voelter@xxxxxxx <jean.bezivin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ed
>> Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>> Subject
>> Re: oAW in Amalgam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>>> I'd say no proposal is necessary, just a patch applied to Bugzilla (the
>>> usual process). This way, we can take a look at the extent of what's
>>> being proposed. For now, the only artifact in the Amalgam repo is an
>>> EPP
>>> definition for the general Modeling package. I expect an "oAW"
>>> definition that would include Xpand/Xtend/MWE/Xtext is the place to
>>> start?
>>
>> yes, but we do need real a repository where we can
>> put the "glue" code as well as a newsgroup for support.
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/1/08 11:34 AM, "Ed Merks" <merks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Markus,
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it would involve just a feature definition for pulling
>>>> together a
>>>> subset of the things Amalgam itself is already pulling together. I
>>>> doubt
>>>> it needs to be a separate project. Rich is the lead for the project,
>>>> so
>>>> it's best to take direction from him on how to proceed? I wonder what
>>>> steps need to be taken to ensure that oAW is an Eclipse brand and that
>>>> we
>>>> don't get flak from the foundation about it...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>>>> mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Markus Voelter"
>>>> <voelter@googlema
>>>> il.com>
>>
>>>> To
>>>> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>>>> 04/01/2008 11:05
>>
>>>> cc
>>>> AM "Richard Gronback"
>>>> <Richard.Gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>>> "Jean Bezivin"
>>>> Please respond to <jean.bezivin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> voelter@xxxxxxx
>>>> Subject
>>>> oAW in Amalgam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>
>>>> what are the next steps we need to take to get oAW
>>>> under Amalgam, as discussed at EclipseCon? Do we need
>>>> to write a project proposal?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Markus
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Markus Völter
>>
>> voelter - ingenieurbüro für softwaretechnologie
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