RE: [alf-dev] SCM Vocabulary - Workspaces Problem

["Richard Title" <rtitle@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds like we're all converging on agreement. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Buss
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:41 PM
To: ALF Developer Mailing List
Subject: RE: [alf-dev] SCM Vocabulary - Workspaces Problem

I don't see ALF providing a "Workspace" service.  I see SCM's doing
that.

There may be a need for a more rudimentary "storage" service for which
ALF may provide an example implementation.  Possibly this could be a
subset of the Workspace definition but it also could be entirely
separate.  We have identified a need for "report" storage and there may
be cases where there is a need to pass a reference to a storage location
around independantly of an SCM being present.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mark Phippard
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:55 AM
To: ALF Developer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [alf-dev] SCM Vocabulary - Workspaces Problem

alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/21/2006 12:42:14 AM:

> The current proposal is that ALF specifies a Workspace Service that 
> can "Get" etc. under its control.  This service may run on the SCM 
> server or
on 
> the same machine as the tool.  So long as it can provide a means of
getting 
> the files to the tool ALF doesn't care.  The different configurations
may 
> require different setup at deployment but they are functionally the
same.

I do not see it as ALF providing an actual service.  Do you?  I cannot 
envision how that would work.  I envisioned it more as we describe a 
vocabulary/schema representation of a workspace that is expressive
enough 
that different SCM tools would have the info they would need to
implement 
the feature in the ways that it chooses.  The user designing the service

flows would then just have to be aware of the capabilities of their
tools.

The only service I potentially saw ALF providing was some service that 
maybe created one of these "Workspace objects" that was then used in the

service flows as an input to the tool provided services.  The ALF
service, 
if one existed, might have the intelligence to generate a unique work 
folder name, or perhaps some other capabilities.  Again, I am not 
convinced that this is even needed, but that is all I saw ALF providing 
here.  Other than a vocabulary/schema of course.

Mark

PS - I might not be able to make the discussion today.  I am still
trying 
to juggle some stuff around so that I can make it.
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