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Meeting minutes for ALF Source Code Management Vocabulary Meeting,
Wednesday May 24th at 10:00AM PDT
Agenda
0. Last week's minutes (below)
1. Status on tasks (see list in minutes below)
2. Use Cases
3. Workspace discussion
4. Any other business
Attendees:
Tim Buss - Serena
Adam Simantel - Serena
Eric Minick - Urban Code
Richard Title - Accurev
Mark Phippard - SoftLanding
0. Last weeks minutes were accepted. Not additional comments were noted
1. Status on tasks
Todo
T3. Pick a couple of use cases to fully flesh out as examples.
We received some integration based use cases from Kelly Shaw (see her
email) and have decided to pursue her first case from an ALF perspective
Eric Minick and Richard title "volunteered" to have go at this.
T7. Discuss "Workspace" -
We started the discussion on the all (see below)
T9. Add SCM product equivalent terms to concepts - due May 24
Adam Simantel added some
T11. Integration based use cases
We need to capture a set of typical SCM integration use cases to ground
the ALF vocab effort
Adam Simantel
Eric Minick
All
Eric created a Wikki page which was discussed (see below) It was
suggested that we need to have some scenario based use cases (see Use
Cases Below) We decided to continue this task in a separate Mail thread.
This appears to be close to the idea of T3 (above) which somehow I
missed in the task review
The email thread gathered some useful perspective.
T12. Review and Discuss Data Model - All - due May 31
Postponed due to Brian' absence
T13. Review and
Discuss "Component" concept - All - due May 31
Postponed due to Brian' absence
T14. Wikki pictures -
This has been figured out and while a bit convoluted seems to be fairly
easy. When you are editing a section thre is a tab at the top that
allows you to insert an image tag eg. [[Image:Example.jpg]] at the
cursor. If you save the change and exit the edit mode you can click on
the image tag to upload the image.
New Tasks
T15.
Expand "primitive" use cases to include more detail (eg datatypes,
method signatures)
I volunteered to ask Adam and Jamey to take a look at this
2. Use cases
Basic point - While the it's true that primitive can be used to create
any SCM scenario we want to ALF focused integration scenarios to
prioritize primitives. The goal is not to create the "best SCM ever".
We decided to pursue primitives and scenarios in tandem.
Eric and Richard will break down Kelly Shaw's Scenario to illustrate how
that might get implmented using ALF.
Adam and Jamey (too be determined) will expand the primitive use cases
to start including the datatypes and method signatures
(see tasks T3 and T15)
3. Workspaces
Basic point - SCM usually involves a client that controls some local
storage. Tools operate on this local storage. In ALF, the service flow
may iniate a get (fex) but it doesn't control any local storage and we
do not want to stream file content through BPEL. We need a "workspace
service" that can provide storage for the get (fex) that the SCM can be
instructed to get to and tools can be instructed to access to obtain the
file content. The ALF purpose is to avoid the tool having in integrate
with every SCM client individually. There are a number of models for
this. This will be discussed in a separate thread.
4. Other business
No other business was noted.
Tim Buss - Serena.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Buss
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'ALF Developer Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [alf-dev] ALF Source Code Mangement Vocabulary Meeting
+1-303-928-3232 id 6053141# Wednesday 10:00AM PDT - meeting minutes
Meeting minutes for ALF Source Code Management Vocabulary Meeting,
Wednesday May 17th at 10:00AM PDT
Agenda
0. Last week's minutes (below)
1. Status on Wikki
2. Status on tasks (see list in minutes below) 3. Use Cases 4. Workspace
discussion (time permitting) 5. Any other business
Attendees:
Tim Buss - Serena
Brian Carrol - Serena
Adam Simantel - Serena
Jamey Clark - Serena
Eric Minick - Urban Code
Richard Title - Accurev
Glenn Everret - Compuware
0. Last week's minutes (below) not additional comments were noted
1. Status on Wikki The Eclipse ALF Wikki appears to be operational. A
number of people have had success acessing and updating it.
Points to note:
If your browser pops up a https change warning you will see numerous
popups when you login. The login may fail the first time possibly
because of this. Trying again seems to result in success.
We don't know how to add pictures - Adam will take a look
2. Status on tasks (see list in minutes below)
Done
T4. Enhance the ALF architecture section - Tim Buss - done
T6. Update concepts from notes as appropriate - Richard Title - done
T8. Concept "Data Model - Brian Carrol- done
T10. Component concept expansion - Brian - due May 10 - done
Todo
T3. Pick a couple of use cases to fully flesh out as examples.
>From the current set the following have been nominated by Mark P.
1. Checkout/Get a Project
2. Apply a Version Label/Tag
3. Possibly some kind of history interrogation.
It was suggested that we need some more integration based use cases to
pick from.
Build and Issue tracking were mentioned as good targets for this A new
task was created to document that (T11).
T7. Discuss "Workspace" - we will start this discussion next week (May
24).
T9. Add SCM product equivalent terms to concepts - due May 24
Richard T added some
Adam Simantel will add some more now the wikki is more up to
date week
T11. Integration based use cases
We need to capture a set of typical SCM integration use cases to ground
the ALF vocab effort
Adam Simantel
Eric Minick
All
Eric created a Wikki page which was discussed (see below) It was
suggested that we need to have some scenario based use cases (see Use
Cases Below) We decided to continue this task in a separate Mail thread.
This appears to be close to the idea of T3 (above) which somehow I
missed in the task review
T12. Review and Discuss Data Model - All - due May 24 T13. Review and
Discuss "Component" concept - All - due May 24 T14. Wikki pictures -
Adam - due May 24
3. Use Cases
We started to discuss the use cases posted to the wikki by Erick M.
Some clarifications were made
Get - query gets all source to clean workspace Update Workspace - query
gets only updated source to workspace Change Detection - query returns a
boolean Change Report - query returns a diff report
Checkin Derived Objects was noted as missing
It was suggested that these were still a bit low level and we should
start with some scenarios.
We came up with Scheduled, On Demand, Triggered and Patch Build. We
decided to persue this in a email thread. On reflection
4. Workspace discussion (time permitting) Time did not permit.
5. Any other business
No other business was noted.
Tim Buss - Serena.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Buss
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:14 PM
To: 'ALF Developer Mailing List'
Subject: RE: ALF Source Code Mangement Vocabulary Meeting
+1-303-928-3232 id 6053141# Wednesday 10:00AM PDT - meeting minutes
Agenda
0. Last week's minutes (below)
1. Status on Wikki
2. Status on tasks
3. Comments on use cases presented last week.
4. Pick a couple of use cases to fully flesh out as examples 5. Any
other business
Attendees:
Tim Buss - Serena
Adam Simantel - Serena
Eric Minick - Urban Code
Richard Title - Accurev
Mark Phippard - Soft Landing
0. Last week's minutes (attached)
There were a couple of comments on the mailing list. I have
included them in the notes from today's meeting 1. Status on Wikki
The Wikki content has now been moved from Daniel Gross's private
Wikki to the official Eclipse Wikki site for ALF. You can contribute by
using your Eclipse bugzilla user id. There is a link on:
http://www.eclipse.org/alf/
You can access it directly at
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/ALF
The SCM vocabulary stuff can be found in the "Vocabularies" section.
Initial rules of engagement are:
0. Please wait for Richard to update the Wikki with the latest changes
(see T6 below)
1. feel free to add "facts" to the main text of the wikki.
2. if you have a comment or a new and/or controversial subject you are
adding please make it obvious by pre-pending [FOR COMMENT - your
initials]. Possibly the "discussion" section will work for things like
this. Please give that try.
3. We will adjust our conventions as we gain experience.
Thanks to Mark Phippard for doing the work to move this across and
special thanks to Daniel Gross for hosting the original ALF Wikki.
2. Status on tasks
Done
T5. Review concepts for completeness and clarity. - There was general
agreement that we have a good starting set. Obviously we have more
refinement to do but the goal of this task is complete
Todo
T3. Pick a couple of use cases to fully flesh out as examples.
>From the current set the following have been nominated by Mark P.
1. Checkout/Get a Project
2. Apply a Version Label/Tag
3. Possibly some kind of history interrogation.
It was suggested that we need some more integration based use cases to
pick from.
Build and Issue tracking were mentioned as good targets for this A new
task was created to document that (T11).
T4. Enhance the ALF architecture section - Tim Buss - due May 17 Delayed
due to other commitments
T6. Update concepts from notes as appropriate - Richard Title - due May
17 Delayed due to other commitments. Richard will update the new
eclipse Wikki with the various changes that have been made since the
first version.
T7. Discuss "Workspace" - we will start this discussion next week (May
17).
T8. Concept "Data Model - Brian - due May 17 Brian has made some
progress.
T9. Add SCM product equivalent terms to concepts - due May 17
Richard Title, Adam Simantel will add to the wikki this
week
T10. Component concept expansion - Brian - due May 10 Brian sent a
suggestion to the mailing list. Since he couldn't make the call it was
decided to discuss this in the mailing list
T11. Integration based use cases
We need to capture a set of typical SCM integration use cases to ground
the ALF vocab effort
Adam Simantel
Eric Minick
All
Adam S and Eric M will do some conjuring on this and bring their hats
and rabbits next week. All are encouraged to do the same
4. Pick a couple of use cases to fully flesh out as examples
this item was covered in T3 and T11 above
5. Any other business
No other business was noted.
Items suggested for next week's call
Use Cases
Workspace discussion
Tim Buss - Serena.
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